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post #51 of 56 Old 05-23-2013, 12:32 PM
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The horse may do exactly what you tell her to do when it's something she is comfortable with. You haven't yet gained her respect, and therefore she sees no reason to listen to you when you ask her to do something outside of her comfort zone. That is the issue in a nutshell. You have not had her long enough, or worked with her enough to gain her respect as herd leader, apparently. It can often take mares longer to get to that point than geldings. Especially if she has lead mare tendencies. Get the respect first and then work on the water issue.

One thing that really gets my hackles up, and this isn't directed at you OP, except that your one comment brought up the topic, is the "jump on the abuse bandwagon" state of mind that seems so common these days. SO many people, (I see it here on the forum almost daily) the second they have an issue, want to blame it on "maybe Fluffy was abused and thats why she doesn't like so and so". 99% of the time, Fluffy just doesn't respect you enough to behave or like whatever you are asking. It has nothing to do with abuse. Horses have minds of their own. They do not have to suffer abuse in order to dislike something.
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post #52 of 56 Old 05-23-2013, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by apachiedragon View Post
The horse may do exactly what you tell her to do when it's something she is comfortable with. You haven't yet gained her respect, and therefore she sees no reason to listen to you when you ask her to do something outside of her comfort zone.
You know, I think there are really two separate things going on here. There's teaching the horse to trust you, the rider, and there's teaching the horse to become more confident in herself about all the strange stuff she runs into out in the real world. Or at least that's what it seems like from the great depth of my one-horse experience

On a really practical level, I don't - as a novice rider - really want to be riding a horse that has such complete trust (or trained obedience) that it will automatically do anything I command. After all, I could do some pretty stupid things, not knowing any better. I want her to have a degree of "horse sense" that will lead her to hesitate and say "Hey, boss? Are you really sure about this?" if she's not confident about our ability to handle something.
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post #53 of 56 Old 05-23-2013, 04:07 PM
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Everything like this is guesswork unless you actually know that something has happened in the horses past
The crows that sit on my ménage fence are demonic creatures yet the ones that follow them around the pasture are no worry at all - but horses are not so dumb and spooking is a good excuse for not working in there so just maybe your horse knows that going down this slope is the pathway away from home and security?
I've been through the whole scary water full of alligators thing with Looby (and many others) and usually its down to determination and patience plus having very solid confident horses to give her a lead
I've had the same with steep slopes too when she felt her feet sliding a bit the brakes would go on, I found leading her down with as little pressure on her as possible on a really long rope worked better than me trying to lead her from her bridle, she now sprints down like a mountain goat - it was just all down to her lack of confidence in herself & her gradual build up of trust in me
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So I basically didn't read anyone replies since my last post, sorry! I hope you all know I appreciate them anyway!

Anyway; I finally got her to go down the slope and into the water by first doing a lot more groundwork, lounging for respect and trust and a bunch of other stuff like that. I've known had her for 3 weeks and a couple days incase anyone was wondering.

I went out by myself to the creek yesterday, I first did that "going to water is good, going away is bad" under saddle with both slopes down. After a while when she would stand facing the slope, calmly, though still didn't go down.

I hoped off, we were riding in a rope halter btw, and stepped down into the pebble part of the creek. I did the same thing as above, giving her praise if she looked down off the bank. After a while she stepped down from the bank, no going down the slope.

After that she now goes in like normal and comes out. Today we went sort of swimming in the creek with my friend. We still need to gain confidence in each other, but I plan to do a lot more trail riding to help her. Also yesterday we went in about every creek I could find, she jumped over them at first but after letting her do it again she was fine.

Once again guys, thanks for replying and giving your opinions on the matter. Sorry this whole thing sort of got twisted and crazy. Live, laugh, ride! ^_^
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post #55 of 56 Old 06-11-2013, 10:09 PM
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I am so glad you are getting this worked out with your horse keep up the good work. Its always fun when you teach a horse that it can do something. Great job!!
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post #56 of 56 Old 06-11-2013, 10:19 PM
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OK so water is really scary to a horse. To start off find more of an even spot in the creek and ask a friend to hold your horse. Make sure your horse is paying attenion to you and silently walk through the water showing her that its ok. Then try to lead her in by foot if that doesn't work then find a shallow puddle of water or some where shallow lead her through that make it super shallow then increasing when she is cofortable with the amount of water and then increase.Good Luck!!!
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