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        11-24-2012, 11:57 AM
      #11
    Foal
    I like the idea of the recorded noises! I never would have thought of that! I don't have anyone to ride with (right now). I don't want to take him out of his known environment yet. I really appreciate everyone's ideas! Thank you all so much!
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        11-24-2012, 01:32 PM
      #12
    QOS
    Green Broke
    My barn manager's young Arabian mare was pretty snorty spooky on the trail when she started 3 years ago with her. Birds flying up would really get to Legato...which is a hoot...they are all over where she is pastured. She is worked with quiet a bit too. Now 3 years later, Legato is still full of piss and vinegar but is a total sweetheart and is getting better with each trail ride. She just completed her first 25 mile endurance ride like a champ...not spooking at the cow, the deer, the birds which normally would have upset her. Her owner was thrilled. Lots of ring work has gone into this mare...loads of dressage training. Keep working with her...miles miles miles........and lots of wet saddle pads should help. Good luck and hope to hear good news with your sweetie.
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        11-24-2012, 06:21 PM
      #13
    Foal
    To Poppy1356: I have been feeding Pistol sweet feed. I never realized that could be part of the issue. Apparently all that sugar is hyping him up a bit. Next trip to the feed bin I will be getting a low/no molasses feed/supplement. I probably don't work him as much as I should either. Every other day or two has been the norm except for the 15 minutes during feeding that I brush and groom him and stomp around to get him used to movements and noise, etc. A horse is only as good as its owner.
         
        11-24-2012, 06:54 PM
      #14
    Green Broke
    Giving an arab sweet feed is like putting a mentos in a coke and waiting for it to explode. They are a high energy breed and don't need any help getting hyped up. Good thing you are changing that. If you have to feed I would go with beet pulp or rice bran or some alfalfa pellets.

    What are you doing for work? Are you keeping his mind active and having the need to focus on you or are you doing repetative work where he can zone out basically?
         
        11-24-2012, 07:55 PM
      #15
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by mandee28    
    to Poppy1356: I have been feeding Pistol sweet feed. I never realized that could be part of the issue. Apparently all that sugar is hyping him up a bit. Next trip to the feed bin I will be getting a low/no molasses feed/supplement. I probably don't work him as much as I should either. Every other day or two has been the norm except for the 15 minutes during feeding that I brush and groom him and stomp around to get him used to movements and noise, etc. A horse is only as good as its owner.

    Lord, girl! You'll cause a nuclear explosion feeding like that!

    I feel for you again, because I use to feed and work my mare just like you're doing yours right now. Actually, I was WAY worse. She got 4 pounds of sweet feed a day, alfalfa hay, and got worked once every couple weeks.

    You can take your horse off grain completely. As long as he has enough hay, you don't need grain. A ration balancer would provide vitamins and minerals, but your horse won't die without one.

    If he has a hard time keeping weight without grain, I really like this stuff called Cool Calories 100. It's basically dry vegetable oil. 100% fat supplement. My mare gets two cups a day of Cool Calories and 3 pounds of super low sugar/carbohydrate, high fat feed.

    I've done a TON of experimenting with feed because my mare has PSSM. I've tried every major feed brand, several lesser known ones, and every fat supplement I can find. Plus several ration balancers and vitamin/mineral supplements. If you need any help with feed, shoot me a question. I can e-mail my nutritionist if I can't give you an answer!
         
        11-24-2012, 10:18 PM
      #16
    Trained
    My horse was just like your horse 6 months ago. I take her out once or twice a week on a nice slow trail ride with an older, calmer horse. She is doing so much better just from being ridden. You mentioned taking her out bareback. I think that I would not do that. I would use a saddle and a helmet. You do not want to fall off and get hurt for several reasons. First, you don't need to get hurt. But second, she can learn that spooking can get you off and allow her to quit working. She won't really understand that you are injured; just that she is not having to do her job. Getting ditched is bad for your horse's training. Consistent, persistent, slow miles along side a mature horse will help your horse learn that squirrels usually don't eat horses.
         
        11-28-2012, 12:20 AM
      #17
    Weanling
    I feel for you I am going through the same very thing with my new 4yr old Appy.
    He spooks off of anything..We are going to be starting the "Method" pretty soon I hope that helps, but till then we are doing a lot desensitizing with bags..
    I also take him for short walks out on the trail to get him comfortable with the area..
    Ground work and more ground work wishing you luck!
         
        11-28-2012, 09:16 AM
      #18
    Foal
    I can't say enough about Clinton Andersons fundamentals "Method". My daughters horse went from jumpy, spooky and reactive...nearly unridable to basically bombproof and riding in parades and on wagon trains in just a few months. Clinton is not necessarily the best horse training clinician...but he is the best people trainer. If you can't afford to join the no worries club or buy his videos...check out giddyupflix.com to rent them. I bet this mare would benefit from the "Method" greatly. Good luck and have fun and be safe.
         
        11-28-2012, 11:58 AM
      #19
    Green Broke
    First: evaluate your self and your horse. Most people are really good at blaming the horse, but rarely look at themselves. Are you very alert/nervous/tense when riding? Do you anticipate spooks? Is it possble you are gripping the reins?

    Then cut out high energy feeds. That might solve your problem right there.

    Build trust on the ground(as was mentioned by other posters)

    Build trust under saddle. MILES, MILES, MILES. Start with work in the pen, getting him responsive to your cues, listening to you at all times and focused on his job. As soon as he is at this stage, take him out for rides. Long ones if you can, and as offten as you can. The miles give him experience under saddle and build trust between you.
         

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