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        07-17-2013, 11:38 PM
      #1411
    Yearling
    Just don't finish getting on till she stands. Every time you start to mount and she moves, drop back to the ground and make her start over.

    Position her up, collect a rein, maybe even slightly tip her head toward you. As you start to mount, if she starts to move off, pull her head on around and either stand in the stirrup ( don't throw a leg over) or drop back down.

    They learn real fast that if they stand still, you will finish mounting. If they move, you repeat.

    Once in the saddle, Don't GO. Sit for a minute fiddle with your tack, put on some gloves, drink a bottle of water. Every time she tries to walk off. Lift the reins, I'd even back her up to where you started. Don't allow any forward motion until you ask her to go forward. Your horse should understand a Go Forward signal. And she should ignore any other movement of you messing with tack or getting things settled.

    I used to do NATRC competitive trail rides and judges would ding me points because my horses would move as I mounted. Once I decided I didn't want to loose any more points and spent 15 minutes a couple days in a row. Problem was solved.
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        07-17-2013, 11:49 PM
      #1412
    Yearling
    I even went a step farther one summer. I taught my horses when I raise my arm, that I wanted them to side pass over to me. I could stand on a rock, log, fence rail etc and hold my arm up. Horses would side pass over to me. I would mount from the stump or what ever I was standing on.

    I taught this by holding the lead rope in my left hand and using a whip/carrot stick in my right had and tapping the far side of the hip until the horse moved toward me. At first it was just a movement or lean in my direction, as they learned what I wanted, they started taking steps over, Soon I got rid of the whip and just held my arm up over their back, like I was reaching the whip across. Now I can just hold my arm up.

    As with all things horsey, Teach this on both side. It comes in really handy on the trail. If for nothing else than to get the horses attention and get him obeying your queues and stop worrying about what going on around him.

    If you get them focused on stuff like this, they forget about moving off and learn to wait for your queues. Something else to try is to mount and them just practice your lateral flexes on both side for 5 or 6 flexes before asking them to move forward. The horse start expecting that you will flex him every time before you move forward. He will almost start flexing himself as soon as you mount instead of heading for the trail.
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        07-18-2013, 12:10 AM
      #1413
    QOS
    Green Broke
    Painted Horse I would like to give that a try with The Biscuit!!! He is pretty dang smart and picks things up quickly. BUT...he is also extremely hard headed at times so I don't know if this will be one of the things he picks up quick!!!
         
        07-18-2013, 12:48 AM
      #1414
    Yearling
    Just be really consistent with your tapping and release ( stop tapping) at the slightest give. After the horse figures it out, You can ask for bigger gives. Once they learn to move away from the tapping, you can start to teach them to move just by raising your arm.


    I was surprised at how fast they learn this. It just like any other queue where you ask, ask stronger, ask even stronger until they respond, Then each time after you ask lighter. Whether its a side pass in the saddle or a lateral flex. Same teaching process.

    I just went out and stood on a fence rail of my 3 rail fence and asked them to swing over to me. But it could be anything you have around your yard. A bucket, a stump, a big rock, a ditch bank etc.

    Once they learned both side, I could spin them 180 depending on which arm I raised and which arm I held the lead rope with. ( I mount my horses from either side depending on the terrain. I've always been able to mount from the ground, even on my 16H horses, but I blew some tendons in my wrist while up riding alone one weekend. With one hand out of commission it was tough to get on the horse, Being able to get the horse to step over to a log was a big help.
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        07-18-2013, 10:25 AM
      #1415
    Green Broke
    I wanted to share my excitement with you about saddling and riding Sugar for her first on both last evening.

    She is my 4 yr old lineback Dun and has never been started under saddle as far as the last owner's knowledge goes. They had her for a year before I got her at the beginning of this year. She is also the most curious horse I have ever met, even more than Little Man my 8 yr old paint.

    Anyways, my intentions were just to get her started under saddle and let that be it for the day since I'd figured for some uneasyness. How wrong was I!!!
    Tied her to the tailgate strap and started introducing the saddle pad. She thought it was for tug-o-war and wanted to play. Lol finally got it rubbed all over her with no care in the world from her. Sat it on her back and went for a walk around the tree as if nothing was there. Grabbed the saddle and gave her a smell of it then rubbed down her chest and ribs. Her reaction was to check out the left over hay in the bed of the truck. Sat it on her back and she never even acknowledged it was there. I'm getting excited at this point thinking I should have done this long ago!!

    Walked her around with cinch laid over the saddle and she still acts like its been there all the time. Went back to the truck and started tightening the cinch in stages with still no reaction from her. At this point I don't know if I should be thrilled or disappointed. Haha Walked her part ways down the pasture then got her into a trot with the stirrups bouncing to see if that would bother her,NOPE.

    She is showing all the signs of a horse who was already broken and continued to do so even when I got on her to walk around a tree there by the barn. I decided to end it on that positive note so I unloaded the saddle into the back of the truck and tried to send her back out after grooming her. She acted like she wanted more. Lol


    Here are a couple of pics of her and me..I am in awe of this one little lady..

    Sugar saddle test.jpg

    Sugar first on back.jpg

    Here is a pic for reference on her size. I'm 5'11" 215lbs
    Sme&sugar.jpg
         
        07-18-2013, 01:04 PM
      #1416
    QOS
    Green Broke
    Wonderful! She is a pretty little girl
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        07-18-2013, 02:54 PM
      #1417
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Painted Horse    
    Just don't finish getting on till she stands. Every time you start to mount and she moves, drop back to the ground and make her start over.
    That sounds good for my friend's horse, who moves before she's mounted. But I can't see it working with mine, who waits until after I'm mounted but still fiddling with tack (that is, getting my foot in the stirrup). You think maybe it'd work if I waited a bit to do that, and kept her standing meanwhile?

    Humm... Maybe part of the problem is with me, and the idea of "get on, get feet in stirrups before doing anything else"?

    Thanks too for the advice on training them to come parallel to a bank. She's ok with stumps & rocks, but a bank seems like an invitation to swing around and start munching on grass. And while I can mount from the ground, when I do, I sometimes wind up with the saddle off-center.
         
        07-20-2013, 05:24 PM
      #1418
    Weanling
    Roady, that's amazing! What a pretty girl too! I'm glad her training in coming along good, and I hope it continues on a good note too!

    My gelding I have now likes to take a few steps before I am settled in the saddle. He just gets excited. But we're working on standing still until told otherwise. :)
         
        07-21-2013, 11:46 AM
      #1419
    Started
    Jamesqf, you need a FIRM "STAND" command, which means HORSE, your feet stop NOW, and they do not start until I say so. On the ground, in the saddle, getting on, getting off. It is different from Whoa, which means stopping from a gait. And don't use "whoa" when you mean walk. (the girls that ride with me are bad about this).

    I rarely tie my horses, because this ground tie/stand is so important to me. I hitch my horses to the carriage in the barn aisle, or outside the barn, and they need to not move ONE foot, or kick at flies, or swing their head around. These little things that we let them get away with build into big problems without us even realizing it.

    Nancy
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        07-22-2013, 08:20 AM
      #1420
    Green Broke
    Rode a couple of the horses around the property yesterday then Tacked up Doc, the 20+ horse I got for my daughter and rode him around the neighborhood. I found a few things that needs work, but was pleased with the ride all in all. It has been awhile since I left the property in saddle and it felt great. I can't wait til Trusty is healed up so we can get back into working again.

    Sugar is coming along with leaps and bounds. I had my 12 yr old daughter, Amber, come out with me Saturday afternoon to work with Sugar and Doc. Ended up leading Amber around the pasture a few times on Sugar's back. She looked like a seasoned veteran and Amber said that was the smoothest ride she can ever remember on horse back. I am thinking if I can get Sugar and Doc to get along well enough then I'll start ponying Sugar around with Doc. If I can get that to work out around the pasture then I'll try it around the neighborhood. I would love to start taking Amber for rides around the neighborhood with me for company and time with her. I led Amber around the short block on Doc Saturday, but she said he has a swagger to his walk which makes her have to grab horn .lol
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