Mountain lions in Central NY?

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    10-11-2012, 02:01 PM
Mountain lions in Central NY?

Officially, supposedly, they are extinct? BUT, twice recently, one of the folks (she is reliable and not crazy) at our barn has reported hearing really loud "cat like" horrible screams on the trails (we have 300+ acres) and today, she is saying she actually saw one in the woods near an old deserted shed. I have never seen one out there, neither has anyone else, but most of us are chatting away, or hacking, not just walking quietly. She says it looked like a lioness from the zoo.
Anyone else ever hear of this in this area? I know there were rumors several years ago.....
We actually discussed the noises the last time we were out, and passed them off as probably a coyote, which we know we have......
Not quite sure how dangerous they are to us out on the trails-I am thinking that with the population of deer, turkey etc, we are probably pretty safe....any thoughts?
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    10-11-2012, 02:14 PM
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Mount Lions are not extinct. They have had several sightings in various areas in VA but none of those sightings have ever been confirmed. Most of them are down south towards Fl. It's possible that they are out there but most likely I would assume she's hearing a bobcat. I've heard them yowl at night and it will make the hairs on the back of your neck stick up.
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    10-11-2012, 02:21 PM
Hmm. Thanks-just looked those up. Yup that is much more likely, and they actually are rarely seen around here apparently. I will have to send her a picture and see if that is it. They seem to be much smaller, active any time of day and I guess the good news is that with their territories being 12-14 sq miles, it is unlikely we have very many. "Officially" according to the DEC, actual mountain lions are considered extinct in this area.....from what I could find.
    10-11-2012, 05:29 PM
Green Broke
A tagged one was killed on the road in CT last year. He came from the Dakotas if I remember right.
We get sightings here in NH from time to time but nothing proven or admitted to by fish and game.

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In the early 1970's we went through the same thing with coyotes. Wasn't until somebody dumped a few carcasses on fish and game headquarters steps in the night that they finally admitted they are here. Much bigger than the western coyote and they tend to hunt in packs. Wolves have been trapped and DNA typed just 10 miles over the Canadian/NH border. I'm sure they stop at border crossings to show their papers. Been rumors of Mt lions in this area for years.
There is more woods by far in NH than at the turn of the century. It could hide things.
    10-11-2012, 05:33 PM
I would thing It was a bob cat also but it would not surprised me
    10-11-2012, 05:36 PM
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    10-11-2012, 05:56 PM
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Lots of people were reporting sightings of a cougar in CT that were dismissed as cranks and then they found that one dead on the road
I know quite a few credible people who still say they see them and it wouldn't surprise me at all.
Why would one walk all the way from Dakota on its own?
Maybe they do that sort of thing.
So much forest land here, we get some pretty big bears show up - often at places like Burger King - you rarely see them the rest of the time so easy for cougars to hide out
If the keep the deer population down I'm all for them. You can't shoot deer in case they go and lie injured on some bambi lovers property, I'd have as much chance of hitting one with a shot from a gun as if I threw the gun at it anyway
I'm the crazy english lady chasing them off banging saucepans together yelling leave my flowers alone and keep your ticks to yourself
    10-11-2012, 07:49 PM
Last year my friend and I were riding in the Game Lands in Bradford County, PA, not far from the NY border. It was broad daylight and a mountain lion crossed the road about 15 yards ahead of us and froze. We watched it for a few minutes then it vanished into the underbrush. We turned around and headed back to the barn. The big cats aren't supposed to be in our area but we told our story about seeing one, and everyone at our barn had either seen one or knew someone who had.

I would be careful riding in Central NY and Northern PA - mountain lions are out there.
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    10-11-2012, 07:56 PM
A few years back in MI. A small group of us were night riding during July along a creek. We all had night head lamps on and the horses all turned to our right side, then we heard a deep growl as we kept walking along the trail. It was close and my hair was up on my neck. The person in the lead has heard cougars before and quietly said, "Yes, that was a cougar, lets keep walking." My then thirteen year old daughter was riding in the rear and quickly she went towards the front. Scared her.
    10-11-2012, 07:59 PM
If they are supposedly extinct, Then you probably have no laws against chasing them like the folks in California.

Get a couple of hounds and go chase this winter and have some fun.

They are a treat to see in the wild. Enjoy


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