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post #21 of 23 Old 01-03-2013, 08:29 PM
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To me it almost sounds like a security thing.He felt secure riding out with his buddy. With his Buddy gone he has lost his leader/security This is what you have to work on you have to be his leader.The other horse may have helped at first initially, as he thought he had a riding buddy but he soon discovered said riding buddy is green not a leader either
From the pic of him one may suspect him maybe having some saddle fitting issues {looks narrow chested & poorly muscled over topline}. Pain may be an issue but i'm not convinced of that, because he seems to work with little issues in arena.
Agree that he is not as well trained as you may have believed him to be.IMO A well broke horse can be left for months & taken out .They perform what you ask of them, don't need much refreshing. I took My one mare out of pasture today in fact, after not have been riding for over 6 mths.I asked her to play pony horse to a youngster,something she is not use to. Said youngster was full of herself so we had our jobs cut out for us.My mare kept calm did what I asked of her,I could focus on the schooling the youngster & not worry much about my control over my riding mare,she knew what I wanted from her. Incidently this mare Is my retired Halter mare {ones people say don't ride}
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post #22 of 23 Old 01-03-2013, 08:47 PM
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I also agree with Cherie as I have a very sweet but very strong Paint horse who has a very high flight instinct. He has been well frightened by many things in the past including vicious dogs, deer, partridge etc... I have found that his boundless energy can never be quelled but by working in the ring has taught him to better listen to me and burn off some nervous energy. We have achieved a better bond by doing this on a regular basis. We ride about 5 times a week or more. He is now a much better horse but, by no means perfect but I now know how to better manage him, how to calm him. I have found my trainer helpful as well. Don't ever work beyond your measure of safety but don't give up either. Working through issues can be very satisfying for you both as you will gain knowledge and your horse will better respect you as his leader. Best of luck!
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post #23 of 23 Old 01-03-2013, 09:58 PM
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I, too, think that he is testing you. However, I think that the first day he started acting up, it could have been because his buddy wasn't there (that is if Bart always went on the trail with you - aka his confidence booster) or it could have been him just being silly. I don't really think it's him being buddy sour (at least not now) because he acted that way with your dad's horse the second time, maybe barn sour, but I would expect him to act more along the lines of turning back home, not wanting to move, etc. Anyhoo, when he got away with it - you calling your dad to pick both of you up - he learned that he, in fact, did NOT have to work if he scared you enough. (I mean, come on! What a life that would be: eating, sleeping, and more eating! ) I do not think the saddle or the sores had anything to do with it. Yes, the sores probably agitated him, but, you already stated that you have ridden him with sores before and he was fine. If it is a treeless saddle, then I doubt that was the issue. Beside that, you said that you rode him in the arena (I am assuming in that exact saddle) and he was fine.

This is after all pain is ruled out: I agree, you should ride him in the arena first and take excess energy away. Make sure he is listening, etc. Then, you should take him on a trail. When he starts acting up, give him something to think about. Move his feet: circles, bending exercises, really anything that gets his brain working. If you feel more comfortable, then do groundwork. Really make sure that his feet are moving, though! When he calms down, keep going as if nothing happened. Keep your body relaxed, and eventually he will relax as well.

I hoped this helped! & I am no expert (at all!!), this is just what I think.

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