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post #1 of 21 Old 03-10-2013, 12:18 AM Thread Starter
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Question Passing a stallion... problems....

So I took my green gelding out today, passing the neighbors stallion. He didnt notice us until we had passed, but on the way back he was waiting. He was very animated running, bucking, nickering, and grunting. My gelding took off in a run, and I had to emergency stop him. I dropped my phone so I got off. My gelding was prancing around so much (VERY UNSUAL OF HIM) and so I decided to walk him away and lunge him if he continued. He is arab/qh cross and his tail was curled all the way up onto his back (never don't this extreme before) and he was full force running without me asking, on the lunge. I got up to the house, and he finally calmed down and listened well.

Did the stallion intimidate and frighten him? That's my thought. I am going to take him down to the stallion tomorrow and let him relax, but if I'm reading this wrong, then it's pointless.... He was ok until the stallion, and then didnt calm down again until we got up the hill to the farm.

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post #2 of 21 Old 03-10-2013, 01:41 AM
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Horses want to do what the other horse is doing. So if the other horse is raising a ruckus, the horse you're riding will respond in kind. Could fear, anxiety, or some manly competition be involved? Sure! But at the base level, horses are herd animals and if one is all worked up, the others will be too.

Teaching a green horse to ignore horses in pastures and walk by calmly when they're acting a fool is a very important task, but not always the easiest one! Good on you for handling it, and I'd ride past that horse (and others) a million times until my horse learned that when he is under saddle he must listen to ME and ignore the other horses, no matter what they're doing. :)
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post #3 of 21 Old 03-10-2013, 03:47 AM
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Some stallions will want to kill another male, I would keep your distance, if you don't know the stallion.
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post #4 of 21 Old 03-10-2013, 09:58 AM
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It sounds to me like they both just got excited.
I went on a trail ride with my 13 y/o Arab and 2 older Morgans (in their 20s) last fall; the 2 Morgans were pretty spooky, so I took up the rear (reallly wanted to stay away from them, haha). We were walking past a paddock with about 5 or 6 horses and a couple of them came running up next to us. The 2 Morgans got excited and started trotting off and trying to run, too; my Arab jumped a little and stayed at the walk, but I had to try pretty hard to keep him there. If we were riding green horses, I could see where all 3 of us would be on 3 green, bolting horses.
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post #5 of 21 Old 03-10-2013, 11:19 AM
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I would go past the stallion again and again and again, but ONLY if the stallion is well enclosed.

There is one not to far from me, and I hate going by him because I don't like the look of his rickety fence. He gets very excited when we go by (I am on a mare), so if I'm stuck going by him, I usually go into an extended trot before his place, and continue on until we are well past. But, mostly, I just don't go down that road anymore. It sucks because it used to be part of a loop I did on the roads. Oh well.
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post #6 of 21 Old 03-10-2013, 12:49 PM
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I'd think there were probably several factors here but number 1 would be your guy thought he was the bullseye on the stallion's hit list.
Green horses need to learn to accept all kinds of situations but do be careful next trip down the road. Do you have someone with a more experienced horse who could ride with you? Do you know the stallion owner? They need to be aware of the situation for the safety of their horse also. Hopefully it is a good fence.
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post #7 of 21 Old 03-11-2013, 01:30 AM Thread Starter
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Ok, in all honesty I could just not pass the stallion so close. The road that passes him actually goes to a dead end (to another neighbors house). BUT I'd like to use it as a learning opportunity for my gelding. I just didnt want to misinterpret the situation and do something unproductive and unhelpful.

I was riding with a 15 yr old mare and 12 yr old gelding, lol... It could have been worse without them. I just didnt think it was safe to stay on him when he was so spooked, so I got off.

I'm going to take him back down and put a little distance between us and the stallion and just keep talkin gto him and reassuring him. He is one of those horses that will try ANYTHING to make you happy and needs to be reassured. So I'll just do that and keep getting closer as he calms. Hopefully it wont take long before we can walk by unphased.

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Several months ago, while my DW was riding Sunny, we passed a stallion on the trail and had a little tiff...Now, Sunny is a pretty large gelding, and our alpha horse.

Not sure what the stallion said but I figure he must have cussed him as Sunny sure took exception to what ever was nickered.

Sunny was ready to fight when passing horses the next few trips and my DW had to go off trail on several occasions to let the other horses pass.

It took him a month to forget about it and get back to normal.
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Several months ago, while my DW was riding Sunny, we passed a stallion on the trail and had a little tiff...Now, Sunny is a pretty large gelding, and our alpha horse.

Not sure what the stallion said but I figure he must have cussed him as Sunny sure took exception to what ever was nickered.

Sunny was ready to fight when passing horses the next few trips and my DW had to go off trail on several occasions to let the other horses pass.

It took him a month to forget about it and get back to normal.
Well, my old Buck is second at the bottom. He's second to last. So I figure he was wanting the protection of his herd, so he ran home. What do you think of me taking him down there and reassuring him. Think that'll work?

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If the stallion is usually alone, he was likely excited just at the sight of another horse, maybe nothing to do with his being a stallion. Horses need company.
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