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    08-31-2011, 09:36 PM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by CanyonCowboy    
Work in 1988 (Forsten) suggests all modern domestic horses originate from Equus ferus a small statured European equid. Przewalski horses (E. Przewalski) have a different chromosome count (2n=66) compared to domestic horses (2n=64), meaning they are not the progeneter of modern domestic horses.
Thank you for this stat- this is one of the points I've made re: the unlikeliness that the Przewalski horses were the ancestor of modern equines due to chromosome difference.
Enjoyed the entire post- right up my alley!

As for the equine- human connection, I believe it is a partnership, hopefully based on trust and respect. Horses do need to know they are safe with a superior leader and that goes a long way to their acceptance of a variety of situations. I also believe they have an ability or a 6th sense to understand things and intent in a way we do not, which gives them insight into people, their intent, and the environment.
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    08-31-2011, 10:17 PM
Some authorities feel strongly that the Przewalski horse is the ancestor of all modern breeds. Others point out that it is a different species from the domesticated horse, having 66 chromosomes as compared to the 64 of the domestic horse. They further point out that while crosses between the Przewalski and domestic horses result in a fertile hybrid .

So yes, it could very well be possible that they were the start to all modern breeds. Not the arab as previously claimed.

Horses are fantastic creatures that trust us enough to over rule their natural instincts, and that is fantastic. And that is amazing in and of itself.
    08-31-2011, 10:18 PM
Thank you for explaining the game to me to I was wondering about it as well. ; )
    08-31-2011, 10:40 PM
Green Broke
Oh with that in mind I will look at my wife through different eyes She most likely has the same sentiments if considering her horse Kate
    08-31-2011, 11:33 PM
Originally Posted by Stan    
Oh with that in mind I will look at my wife through different eyes She most likely has the same sentiments if considering her horse Kate
You mean she would be slicing and grilling your love handles before she eats her horse? Smart lady!

Back to your whole predator idea, I think horse owners fall into different groups - there are certainly those who beat their horses into submission or use pain. There are those who cuddle and love their horses into action - and then there is the massive group in the middle, who are actually probably as diverse as the two extremes.

I am the alpha with my horse, and actually that takes some work on my part. My job requires me to be alpha all the time (foster parent of teenage boys) and my horse is MY time, so what comes naturally to me in the rest of my life, I have to force from my personality with my horse. However I believe it would be idiotic to absolutely dominate the horse, it is more about being a leader, as at any point in time my 1100lb animal could have a change of heart - and forcing him all the time to do something that he is not cooperating with would likely end badly for me.
    08-31-2011, 11:44 PM
Green Broke
I missed the carrot again. Is any one willing to sell me one. I don't care how I get one now it is becomming an obsession.
The darn things move faster than my horse when spooked and that is often having a predator like me sitting her back.
    08-31-2011, 11:52 PM
I sent you a slice of carrot cake - just to shut you up and fatten up your love handles, should they be needed!
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    09-01-2011, 12:10 AM
Green Broke
AlexS My horse is teaching me. I still maintain we are the predator and sitting on the horse. The horse sences if we mean it harm and acts on the most part accordingly.
I have found my present horse, if I listen to her will tell me subtly at first, if she is anoyed. If I listen to her and back off a little she also settles down. But there is still the alfa mare thing that we are working on.

At times I think my wife and the horses get together, (It's a conspiricy I'm sure) their aim, to see who can boss me around the most.
But you have me worried now, when I walk into the paddock and all three are there, and they all just stare at me. Am I becomming a food item.
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    09-01-2011, 12:12 AM
Green Broke
Stan- you're just too funny... bring some hay and jewelry with you for a quick getaway.. ;)
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    09-01-2011, 12:58 AM
Green Broke
Got room for the horse

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