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        04-28-2010, 11:14 PM
      #11
    Foal
    I do lots of hunting, but when hunting turkey's you use a shoot gun, with pellets that have a range of roughly 50 yrds... also when hunting turkey's you wait for them to come to you... I would not really worry about being shot...
         
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        04-29-2010, 12:53 AM
      #12
    Yearling
    I do not stop riding during turkey or deer season. If I am going to ride in the woods, I wear my traffic safety vest, and my horse wears his flourescent reflectors and his jingle bells. My area is agriculture, so there are a lot of fields with small patches of woods (50 acres or less) spread out. If I see pick up trucks parked next to a patch of woods, I avoid that patch, or will just ride the outskirts.
         
        04-29-2010, 02:34 AM
      #13
    Green Broke
    I am in the White Mountains in Arizona, as there are elk seasons all through the fall, from about the end of August through mid December. I am not about to give up my riding for the yahoos in the woods with guns!

    Elk season is really the only hunts I worry about, and perhaps deer season too. I figure a horse looks more like an elk than a turkey, lol! But yes, I do take it seriously and I wear bright orange or yellow hunting vests and dress my horse in hunting vests too! Here are some photos of how I dress y horses. Usually, the hunting vest on his rump hangs down and covers his hindquarters better, but there must have been a breeze when I took these pictures of him enjoying the flowers. And then I hang another vest around his neck. If I am feeling very paranoid, I might put a red halter on under his bridle and stick some flagging tape on his tack too. I think the bells are also a good idea, but then a hunter might shoot you out of spite, lol!

    Those orange/yellow vests that construction workers wear are great too, and usually they are even more visible than the cheaper hunting vests, IMO. They usually even have some reflective tape on them in case you are stuck out later than you thought you would be, or ride along a road.

    So during hunting season, I am wearing a construction worker vest, and my horse is wearing at least two orange hunting vests. We stick out like a sore thumb! But we need too...... I am also guilty of calling for elk on horseback and have called in bow hunters before!
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        04-29-2010, 02:41 AM
      #14
    Green Broke
    And here is another hunting season photo. I didn't have vests on my horse for some reason, but maybe I thought the blazing orange t-shirt was enough, lol! But it shows the flagging tape and red halter. Maybe the halter doesn't really do anything, but the flagging tape flutters in the breeze, so even though it's small, it will hopefully catch a hunters eye and alert him that we are not an elk.

    In the background is a Mustang stallion I got my picture taken with. My riding partner, who was on a mare, didn't want to get too close to him.
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        04-29-2010, 08:34 AM
      #15
    Weanling
    I feel...assured. Definitely will keep riding.
         
        04-29-2010, 09:24 AM
      #16
    Yearling
    As a hunter I know what I have to look for before I actually start thinking of shooting anything. For Elk, I have to decide if its a cow or a bull. If its a bull I have to decide if its a mature bull or a spike bull. If I have a mature bull tag, I can not legally shoot a spike or a cow. If I have a spike only tag, I can not shoot a cow or a mature bull. So Ihave to look at each elk carefully and decide if they are legal.

    When hunting mature bulls, we are trying to score them on the hoof. So we look at their horns very carefully to try and determine how big they are. There is no mistaking a mature bull elk or a spike bull for a horse.

    Turkey hunting and deer hunting are the same. You have to determine the sex of the target prior to shooting, Heck as a duck hunter I even have to determine the species of the ducks as they fly by at 40mph before I pull the trigger.

    So if a hunter shoots something he pretty well knew what it was. I don't buy the stories about he shot a mule thinking it was a mule deer. It just doesn't happen that way.

    Accidents happen where a hunter shoots at something and the bullets goes past that point and hits something behind that point. This is where Hi Visability clothing helps. It catches peoples eyes and helps them be aware that something is behind the intended target. A hunter who is paying attention is going to be very aware of what is going to stop his bullet. Inexperienced hunters get excited about taking the shot and forget to look at where the bullet may travel after it misses or passes through the traget.

    Good Luck and have fun. As SkipsFirstSpike said, If you know a hunter is in a copse of trees, just go the other way.

    Trailhorserider. I hunted elk one year over by Luna NM. So I got to see some of the White Mountains. Beautiful area.
         
        04-29-2010, 11:43 AM
      #17
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    Originally Posted by Painted Horse    

    So if a hunter shoots something he pretty well knew what it was. I don't buy the stories about he shot a mule thinking it was a mule deer. It just doesn't happen that way.
    Not with you, maybe....but I got this straight from the DOF officer who saw it. I was a guide that spent every fall packing game out by horseback. My fancy event horses spent that time getting ridden into all areas of the west elk wilderness to quarter and pack elk and deer. Believe me, I saw crazy stuff myself.

    BTW, I am definitely NOT anti hunt, so have no reason to lie about such a story. People in the area are still laughing about it.

    Also, I lived in Crested Butte, Co. It is still home to the #1 world record elk.
         
        04-29-2010, 12:03 PM
      #18
    Yearling
    No the record for free roaming Bull elk is held by the Spider Bull shot in Utah in 2008. It scored over 500. Which is absolutely Huge for an elk.

    If Crested Butte still holds a record for a large elk, It would have to be for a captive or High Fence bull, not a public land free ranging bull.

    Do a google search for Spider Bull and there are lots of hits that show photos of this grand bull.
         
        04-29-2010, 12:35 PM
      #19
    Yearling
    The old Joke goes:

    There was once a hunter who was arguing with cowboy about an elk he had shot. The cowboy said to the hunter, OK, OK It's your elk, But do you mind if I get my saddle off it before you gut it?

    As a hunter I may see Deer, Elk, Moose and occassionally Antelope on the mountain while I'm hunting. I will see both sexes of these animals. Most states only issue one Big Game Hunting license at a time. So depending on what tag I have in my possession, I have to determine what I'm looking at; is what I have a tag for. Yes I am sure there are idiots out there that have shot the wrong animal.. But it is the exception not the rule.

    People have a much higher odds of having somebody making a bad decision on the road and causing an accident than a hunter mistaking you for a deer. Yes each year we read in the paper about somebody getting shot during hunting season. Usually it's self inflected by somebody accidently discharging their own gun and getting hurt or killed. If not self inflicted, it is usually somebody from their own party of family or friends, who was careless with a gun and caused the accident. It is extremely rare that somebody gets shot by somebody they don't know.

    But if I was to read the rest of the paper, there was probably a traffic accident that killed somebody that same day. People talk about how dangerous it is to ride horses. And yes I read about 2-3 deaths each summer from horse accidents. But I read about a death almost weekly from ATVs. So which is more dangerous? Utah averages 2 hunting deaths per year, but it averages almost 300 auto fatalities each year.

    So which makes a better news story that will be retold by more people. The one stupid man who shoots a mule or the ATV rider that broke his neck? I suggest that the one idiot who shot the mule, gets his story retold over and over. As you said they are still laughing about it years later.
         
        04-29-2010, 02:02 PM
      #20
    Banned
    Here in Pa you can hunt turkeys until 12:00, you must be out of the woods by 1:00... so I go riding after 2:00...


    'course in the morning, before I ride, I'm out hunt'n turkeys ;)
         

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