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        03-13-2009, 01:40 PM
      #11
    Showing
    I have one of those too mls. We ride at the back of the group and do lots of back tracking. Usually by the end of the ride she is walking with the group. She is gaited and we ride with folks who are on ponies and sometimes a group of older folks who ride in a pony pulled wagon. Its tough for us to go that slow but we manage.
    Another rule we follow is everyone stays behind the trail boss.
         
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        03-13-2009, 04:20 PM
      #12
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by rosie9r    
    we already do everything mls said (thanks!) except we don't put ribbons on tails, we just say hey he's a kicker or whatever else we warn each other about. (we have all been riding together with the same horses for months)

    We have some pasos that ride with us, they are little high strung but have no problem being out with the nongaited horses... she says first, that she can't ride her 15.3 qtr horse with the pasos because her horse wants to run all the time since the pasos legs are moving faster even when we are walking.

    Then sometimes part of the group will want to trot instead of walk. So the people(its usually just me on the TB and the pasos) that want to move faster, move waaaay ahead of the group before trotting or cantering. This is when she really starts going on about the rules of trail riding. The last time we all rode together, we moved way in front of the group almost over to the other side of the hill so their horses couldnt see us go faster. The whole time she is yelling (literally screaming) at us to stop because her horse wants to run after us and she can't keep him under control. (her way of keeping him under control is baby talking to him btw) so right now everyone avoids rides with her or either of her horses. Grr stick in the mud. Sorry for the rant. :op
    For a group of 10 or so where everyone knows everyone and can kinda keep track of which horses kick...just saying "hey...mine is a kicker" is enough. In this area the ribbons are more for big trail rides with a couple hundred people. We have one coming up and even though everyone will kinda go in their own little groups...sometime you come up to and pass groups...and you need to know what horses in the other group you should watch for.

    I agree that it sounds to me like this lady needs to be doing more work with her horse. The people I ride with don't mind when we do stuff like going up ahead and then picking up a faster pace...so long as we give a warning. We do it to work on our horses so when we meet other groups at a big ride, our horses are paying attention to us, not to the horses going ahead of them. I think if it were me I would either get the group's approval to leave the lady behind or not ride with her at all. Or maybe have a talk about working with her own horse. There's a lady at our barn with three horses (two pasos and a drafty looking pony...can't remember what he is). She's really scared of them. She doesn't ride them. One day she was pulling one out of the stall and the owner's dog and a boarder's dog (both are HUGE dogs) came running down the aisle. Our barn is very laid back about dogs so long as they don't fight or hurt any horses or kids. Anyway...the lady's horse flipped out and she complained about how much money and TIME she puts into them to be having something happen because someone let their dog out. 1. The owner doesn't let the dog out if he know's someone's that has a problem with it is there. 2. She didn't try to find him to tell him she had a problem with it...just complained to his daughter in an email later that evening. 3. Her horses are lucky if she comes out once a week...and she doesn't work with them on anything. She just sweet talks them "oh...poor thing...that dog scared you...here have a treat." People that have problem horses and don't do anything but complain about other people's animals annoy me.

    I think the next time she had her horse's nose in another horse's butt I'd complain about her not following the "rules of trail riding" and keeping her horse back at least a full horse length!
         
        03-13-2009, 04:42 PM
      #13
    Weanling
    Orange tictac...wow, you said it :) its pretty much agreed within the group to not include her in the trail rides.

    Side story: once we had to cross a creek in a pasture. I got first, my Morgan I leased LOVES water so we are off to the side playing in the creek and everyone is crossing. The ol stick in the muds horse refuses to cross the creek so she gets off (big training no no IMO) and attempts to walk/lead him across. Baby talking the whole time of course. But anyway the horse eventually does cross so she decides to lead him across multiple times. Except every time she comes and leads him to cross right on top of where I am! I have my back to her, she leads the horse across and the horse nearly jumps on top of me. I was so pissed she got an earful.

    Our barn is pretty low key about dogs too. They also have a pig that wanders around. :)
         
        03-13-2009, 05:15 PM
      #14
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rosie9r    
    we already do everything mls said (thanks!) except we don't put ribbons on tails, we just say hey he's a kicker or whatever else we warn each other about. (we have all been riding together with the same horses for months)

    We have some pasos that ride with us, they are little high strung but have no problem being out with the nongaited horses... she says first, that she can't ride her 15.3 qtr horse with the pasos because her horse wants to run all the time since the pasos legs are moving faster even when we are walking.

    Then sometimes part of the group will want to trot instead of walk. So the people(its usually just me on the TB and the pasos) that want to move faster, move waaaay ahead of the group before trotting or cantering. This is when she really starts going on about the rules of trail riding. The last time we all rode together, we moved way in front of the group almost over to the other side of the hill so their horses couldnt see us go faster. The whole time she is yelling (literally screaming) at us to stop because her horse wants to run after us and she can't keep him under control. (her way of keeping him under control is baby talking to him btw) so right now everyone avoids rides with her or either of her horses. Grr stick in the mud. Sorry for the rant. :op
    Oh my gosh Rosie9r, I believe I've ridden with that woman!!! Or maybe there is one in every horse community.

    I took this woman on a trail ride since she said no one ever took her on a controlled trail ride before. So there I was in the lead, her husband (bless his heart, very nice guy), then her, a friend of theirs and riding drag a good friend of mine. We kept it at a walk, and every minute this woman talked, screamed and carried on to herself about the roots or rocks or change of footing ect.... I was speechless. Needless to say at the mid point of the trail ride she called me a very inappropriate name and that was it!!! I have a lot of patience and tolerance but I have my limits.

    Have since run into many other people that have experienced this "nut"!

    My advice to you, ride without her and if she decides to ride with you guys, tell her either learn to control her horse or stay in the arena!
         
        03-14-2009, 09:22 AM
      #15
    Trained
    I swear every group has one of these... I went out twice with one lady and I told everyone else that if she's going, don't bother to invite me. She has a different way of attacking, and usually blamed it on her horse, but in a nutshell it is the same problem your rude rider has -- not competent, not willing to learn, probably not confident... these people don't want to see their own faults and therefore never get better.
         
        03-14-2009, 09:57 AM
      #16
    Weanling
    The list of "rules" already posted is what I have always understood. Some other things to add to that list:

    - when stopped to get a drink (stream, etc.) or stopped because someone dismounts... wait until everyone is ready/mounted before moving off.

    - when crossing an obstacle like a stream, wait until everyone crosses before speeding up.


    Usually, the "rule" are for groups of strangers. When riding with a regular group, the "rules" can be anything that is agreed upon. I used to ride with someone and either one of us would randomly lope off is a different direction whenever we felt like it (part of the reason it started was to make sure our horses' never became buddy sour). In other words, the "rules" can be whatever the group agrees to.

    Another hard and fast rule of riding (and life) is that you can't please all the people all the time. When you ride in a larger group, there will always be someone that is unhappy with something. Too fast, too slow, whatever.

    A corollary to that rule is that the amount of complaining is usually inversely proportional to either the amount of training the horse has, and/or the ability of the rider to control that horse.

    Best thing is to identity and avoid those people. :)
         
        03-14-2009, 04:52 PM
      #17
    Zab
    Yearling
    In sweden:
    * Don't harm the ground where you ride; avoid wet paths and so, in rainy periods you use the roads.
    * Don't ride in peoples yards or too close to a house, don't ride on planted fields or newly planted tree-flield thingies.
    *Close gates if you pass them, don't disturb cattle or so if you go through a pasture (but normally you stay out of pastures anyway since you never know whet there might be and if ''it'' scares or attack your horse)
    Other than that, ride where you want.

    When you meet people, slow down to a walk.
    When you meet cars; stay out of the way as much as posible and stand still or walk (whatever the horse is easier with), don't trot.
    Say something before you're too close to people if you come up from behind, and don't trot, unless they've seen you and is okay with you trotting.
    Try to keep the horses butt out as far beside the path/road as possible if he 'has to go'.

    When riding in a group:
    Don't ride too close and use the horse in front of you as a stop.
    Don't let the horses muzzle each other.
    Make sure everyone is ok with changing gait/speed.
    Try to keep the same speed as your friends.
    If one want to canter while the other one want to walk, let the canter-person stay behind and canter up to the walking person. That way the walker won't get troubles.
    But those last few rules can of course change if you know each other well, as long as you agree about the change. Common sense is normaly enough.
         
        03-14-2009, 07:56 PM
      #18
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zab    
    If one want to canter while the other one want to walk, let the canter-person stay behind and canter up to the walking person. That way the walker won't get troubles.

    Hmmm. In some circles, that practice is not considered a good thing. Not so much for the "walker" but it teaches the other horse to "run" whenever they fall behind. Sort of encouraging the "buddy" instinct. Of course, YMMV.
         
        03-14-2009, 09:12 PM
      #19
    Zab
    Yearling
    I know that's a risk.. but as long as it's the rider who decides when they start cantering, it's not a problem. And if the horse starts getting ''hot'', stop doing it and instead practice to stay behind and walk calmly to the other horse, or have the other rider coming back before you move. I usually practice on both, plus I'm not letting the horse go if he gets too excited and can't stand still, and havn't yet had any problems. But that kind of stuff can always be agreed upon within the group you ride with. At least that method only risk your own horse instead of putting your fellow-riders that by some reason doesn't feel comfortable with a higher speed.
         
        03-16-2009, 01:04 PM
      #20
    Weanling
    Walkamile, maybe it IS the same woman...meandering from stable to stable looking for riders as miserable as her hehehehe :) Ours is married as well, I have often wondered what her husband was like putting up with her antics hehe. :P
         

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