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    06-24-2013, 03:13 AM
  #171
Weanling
I just want to point out that many people are talking about if you could or not shoot someone dead-If someone attacks you you don't have to shoot them in the head. You could probably shoot them in the knee or something. I'm not actually a gun-person but that was just my first thought whilst reading these posts.


Here in NZ we are not allowed to carry guns on public beaches but many people ride on the coasts. As NZ has many beaches they are not crowded (often deserted) so it is totally possible someone could be attacked whilst riding on the beach. I know on rider with a good self defense plan, they have a large machete (sharp) strapped across their horses shoulders. If complained at they say it is for the cutting away of gorse when they ride over the dunes, but its most important purpose is to serve as a very visible detour to anyone wishing them harm.

This idea could be adapted for riding in pretty-much any wilderness area.
     
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    06-24-2013, 09:44 AM
  #172
Trained
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Originally Posted by iRide Ponies    
...If someone attacks you you don't have to shoot them in the head. You could probably shoot them in the knee or something. I'm not actually a gun-person...
Actually, guns are harder to shoot than that. Standing still, shooting at a paper target, I'm accurate enough to shoot a knee sized target at some distance. But under stress, with the other person moving, while trying to control and stay on a horse...I couldn't do it. Not reliably, even if very close.

State and national laws vary greatly in when someone can carry a gun or shoot in self-defense. It is important to know those laws. I tend to assume anyone trying to pull someone off of a horse in a remote area intends to kill or cause serious bodily harm, which is legal justification here for killing someone in self-defense. But if you ever have to shoot someone, make sure you HAVE to shoot someone. If you cannot accept killing the other person, do not ever pull the trigger.

Carrying a good knife or machete might be a good option. At a guess, tho, the bad guy is likely to act friendly until close enough to lunge...getting a weapon out may take longer than you have. If I had any advance suspicion, I'd simply ask for a trot or canter and apologize for my horse's 'spookiness' as we go by. Beyond that, I think the video has excellent advice.
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    06-24-2013, 12:28 PM
  #173
Trained
It is much better to get away from a "bad guy" if you can. I personally know that if it comes down to his life or my life, he will have to go. I am worth more than some thug that goes around murdering people.
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    06-24-2013, 03:01 PM
  #174
Yearling
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Originally Posted by jaydee    
Normal people are unlikely to want to come close to a horse & rider
Don't know what you consider normal. I think a lot of people would, like me, want to admire the horse, maybe give him an ear scratch if he's friendly. Same as if I meet dogs on the trail while hiking.
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    06-24-2013, 08:17 PM
  #175
Weanling
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Originally Posted by bsms    
Actually, guns are harder to shoot than that. Standing still, shooting at a paper target, I'm accurate enough to shoot a knee sized target at some distance. But under stress, with the other person moving, while trying to control and stay on a horse...I couldn't do it. Not reliably, even if very close.

Ahh well, shows how little I know about shooting!
     
    08-30-2013, 09:38 PM
  #176
Weanling
Great post! I admit this is not something I have ever thought about happening.
     
    01-26-2014, 10:55 AM
  #177
Foal
That's why I avoid public trails, ride in a group, or carry a piece.
     
    01-27-2014, 06:59 PM
  #178
Weanling
For those of y'all who aren't gun people. A simple, legal, and excellent choice is Raid wasp and hornet spray. Shoots up to 20 feet, works like mace/pepper spray, and has no legalities attached to it.
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    02-02-2014, 01:17 AM
  #179
Weanling
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Originally Posted by 6gun Kid    
For those of y'all who aren't gun people. A simple, legal, and excellent choice is Raid wasp and hornet spray. Shoots up to 20 feet, works like mace/pepper spray, and has no legalities attached to it.
Great idea, although to say there are "no legalities attached to it" is over-simplification. You purposely spray somebody in the face with wasp spray, and you can bet there will be legal ramifications, civil suits at least, however, you are right in that there are no prohibitions against carrying it.

What's more, it's easier for a hesitant person to decide to actually use it than to use a gun. Not only that, but it will be easier for a non-gun person to hit something with it, because you simply direct the spray until it hits the target. The bad part is that the cans are big and would likely be carried in the saddle bags, so getting it out in a hurry would be pretty iffy at best. I suppose one could make a horn bag-type holster for it to make it quick to get out.

Regardless, it's a great option for those who will not carry a gun, or for places where guns may be prohibited.

A gun in the hands of a person who is not practiced with it, or is hesitant to use it, can end up being worse than not having it in the first place.
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    02-02-2014, 10:29 PM
  #180
Weanling
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Originally Posted by thenrie    
Great idea, although to say there are "no legalities attached to it" is over-simplification.
oh definitely, I was referring to buying a gun and the laws restricting carrying.
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