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post #181 of 224 Old 08-18-2012, 12:44 PM
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It is impossible to teach a horse to be a trail horse by riding in an arena. There is no option for training a horse apart from going out and hitting the trails. And it is NORMAL for a horse to consider a running horse as cause for alarm.

If one does a worst case analysis, then someone slowing down, worst case, loses about 60 seconds of pleasure. But if it results in the other horse spooking, then the worst case is a dead rider. Those are not equal outcomes, so both sides are not equal in the argument.

In 7 years of jogging or riding, I've seen another horse in the area I ride 2 times. Both times, the horse was walking. How in the heck would I train my horse to accept another horse running down the trail as normal, when it is likely they will NEVER see such a thing? If they ever do, it will almost certainly be their first time. And NORMAL horse instinct would be to become alarmed...so yeah, I'd be pissed at the other rider.
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post #182 of 224 Old 08-18-2012, 12:47 PM
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Sorry for triple posting, my mind is elsewhere.

I think what got to me wasn't my horse's reaction, because it probably wasnt even that bad. Or rather, it defintely wasn't that bad. She spooked, and then seemed on edge for a couple minutes, no big deal.

I just thought it was a kind of unspoken rule to slow down to pass, because that's what everyone seems to do. I can't remember having anyone else NOT slow down, or myself NOT slowing down for someone else, which is why this incident got on my nerves.
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post #183 of 224 Old 08-18-2012, 02:37 PM
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Sorry for triple posting, my mind is elsewhere.

I think what got to me wasn't my horse's reaction, because it probably wasnt even that bad. Or rather, it defintely wasn't that bad. She spooked, and then seemed on edge for a couple minutes, no big deal.

I just thought it was a kind of unspoken rule to slow down to pass, because that's what everyone seems to do. I can't remember having anyone else NOT slow down, or myself NOT slowing down for someone else, which is why this incident got on my nerves.
It is an unwritten rule and common sense isn't all that common. To many people only care about #1 and their own pleasures. They'll only give you a thought if you force yourself on their experience, otherwise you don't even exist. I've found it's mostly younger people with this attitude while older people are more considerate. I think it's more of a generational thing.
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post #184 of 224 Old 08-18-2012, 05:51 PM
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the passing issue is all about context. Really it depends on the situation and where you are riding. If I am out at the park on trails with mixed riders, Im going to match their speed, give em a verbal notice, "passing on the left" and generally go by at barely a gear faster than they are moving, get out in front a ways and continue on. If I am walking along talking with a group I'll ask if they "have your horse"? Ok see ya later and speed on up.

Even in the above situations people still have a hissy fit. But at least I tried. These are the type of people that want the entire world to walk on eggshells because they are on a horse. Um sorry bout that, your horse your problem.

On an endurance event pretty much all you will get and all that is expected is a "Passing on the left" called out. With no break in speed.
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post #185 of 224 Old 08-18-2012, 08:35 PM
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Bolting down past somebody like you just robbed a bank is rude. Joe, I don't mean you. You said that you give fair warning.

I had a young girl that ran up my horse's rear and then once and then actually ran into the back side of my horse. If I had been on the horse I am riding now, she would have kicked the devil out of that horse. My sweet older horse didn't kick, but she was upset for the rest of the ride and I don't blame her.

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post #186 of 224 Old 08-18-2012, 09:23 PM
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I'm trying hard to expand my mare's horizons in pieces small enough for her to chew and digest. There is no way I'd take her right now to a popular trail. That would be rude of ME. Other riders ought to be able to have fun, too!

MUTUAL courtesy and respect. I don't want my horse to rob others of their enjoyment. In return, I'd like others - particularly horse owners - to cut me a little slack while training my mare. If nothing else, keep your eyes open. If another horse is getting scared, and your activities may be causing it, help a fellow horse-lover out! Most of the dirt bike riders I've met have done that much...
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post #187 of 224 Old 08-19-2012, 03:29 AM
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the passing issue is all about context. Really it depends on the situation and where you are riding. If I am out at the park on trails with mixed riders, Im going to match their speed, give em a verbal notice, "passing on the left" and generally go by at barely a gear faster than they are moving, get out in front a ways and continue on. If I am walking along talking with a group I'll ask if they "have your horse"? Ok see ya later and speed on up.

Even in the above situations people still have a hissy fit. But at least I tried. These are the type of people that want the entire world to walk on eggshells because they are on a horse. Um sorry bout that, your horse your problem.

On an endurance event pretty much all you will get and all that is expected is a "Passing on the left" called out. With no break in speed.
What you are describing sounds perfectly polite to me, but this person could plain as day see my horse getting upset as she approached... but did not call out to me, acknowledge me or my horse, slow down or do ANYTHING really, except spurring on her horse as she passed with a kick and a 'come ON!'. I was trying to catch her eye to try to communicate to her, but she ignored me. And I didn't just want to shout at or after her, even though I felt like doing just that.

If she didn't want to break stride for whatever reason, she could have just called out to me to check if my horse was fine. I would appreciate her just acknowledging my existence.
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I wish my fiance would read this post. He enjoys galloping off on the trails on his horse, which would be fine if he would warn me before leaing my horse scared, or blowing past my horse making him want to run. Dusty is very competitive, and he hates to see other horses go faster than him, so when I trot down the trails, my fiance lopes his horse past Dusty to irritate him. He knows that Dusty will be difficult and speed up to be ahead. I get onto him for never thinking about how his actions affect other people.. He obviously doesn't care.
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post #189 of 224 Old 08-30-2012, 11:58 PM
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I wish my fiance would read this post. He enjoys galloping off on the trails on his horse, which would be fine if he would warn me before leaing my horse scared, or blowing past my horse making him want to run. Dusty is very competitive, and he hates to see other horses go faster than him, so when I trot down the trails, my fiance lopes his horse past Dusty to irritate him. He knows that Dusty will be difficult and speed up to be ahead. I get onto him for never thinking about how his actions affect other people.. He obviously doesn't care.

All it takes is one bad fall from his 'game' for you to get hurt beyond repair. He may think it's fun but there are serious repercussions to his actions and he should know better than to scare or egg your horse on.
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I wish my fiance would read this post. He enjoys galloping off on the trails on his horse, which would be fine if he would warn me before leaing my horse scared, or blowing past my horse making him want to run. Dusty is very competitive, and he hates to see other horses go faster than him, so when I trot down the trails, my fiance lopes his horse past Dusty to irritate him. He knows that Dusty will be difficult and speed up to be ahead. I get onto him for never thinking about how his actions affect other people.. He obviously doesn't care.
You might want to consider trading the boyfriend you have in for a new model.
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