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    04-20-2013, 05:52 PM
  #211
Weanling
I had my first ever experience with a POLITE motorbikes the other day. Every other biker I have ever come across on the trail or on the beach (and I ride on the trail and beach allot, seeing an average of 3 bikes per ride) has ignored as and powered on past. My horse ignores them. However, The other day I was leading my horse up a hill at the end of the ride, when a bike, coming the other way saw us, slowed right down, cut the engine and rolled on past. I smiled and waved, and my horse stared at the bike with giant bug eyes, thinking, 'Why the heck doesn't that bike have an engine?'

Of course, the second they were past they gunned forward and revved off, causing my mare to jump slightly. Turns out she's not used to polite bikers, but hey! At least the rider tried.
     
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    04-26-2013, 04:23 PM
  #212
Trained
**Corporal applauds bc Corporal cannot add ANYTHING to this**
     
    06-27-2013, 02:12 PM
  #213
Foal
Back to basics...

This is a great thread, so I thought I'd chime in. No matter how long we've all been riding, I think it's important to remember the basics when it comes to good manners and safety on the trails.
Here's an excerpt from one of Maggie's online articles that sums it all up. She says:
"Respect other equestrians, hikers or bikers that you pass. If your horse kicks or bites, tie a ribbon on its tail as a warning to others to keep their distance. Remember to close any gates you open and hold them open if others are behind you. Do not pass other riders at a gallop, as many horses become overly excited. Be polite with your riding distance. If riding with others, allow for ample breathing room in between."
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    08-30-2013, 10:23 PM
  #214
Weanling
Great post! I had always had show horses but changed pace and started trail riding about 5 yrs ago. I remember trying to learn all I could about how to "behave" when riding with others. I also always yield to others on the trail because I know my horse.
     
    08-31-2014, 02:46 PM
  #215
Weanling
Not pointing at any posts in particular, but I've seen a lot of "if you or your horse can't <X> then you shouldn't <Y>" sort of sentiments expressed.

If you're thinking that way, you're going to be mighty lonely on the trail in a few years, because everyone who ever did anything had to do it the first time once, and those of us still learning don't know what we don't know.

We can't all start with your experience. You didn't start with it either.
     
    12-15-2014, 03:48 PM
  #216
Foal
Searched this thread and didn't see anything about muddy trails.


My wife and I are avid equestrians and mountain bikers so we get to see "both sides" of some trail use issues.

Riding muddy multi-use trails ruins the trail for other users, hikers and especially mountain bikers. Good trail stewards and courteous riders should try to avoid riding trails when damage will occur. Horses are very hard on soft/muddy trails and a couple of riders can damage a trail severely.

When encountering mountain bikers on trails, it is unreasonable to expect them to step far off the trail to the downside. As a cyclist I am not going to step off to the downside and place my HEAD at the perfect level for a horse to kick it. I will step off to the upside and let the horse/rider work it out.

Don't expect or ask me to take my helmet off or backpack off because it spooks your horse. If you and your horse are unable to adequately and safely cope with hikers and cyclists when encountering them then stay off public multi-use trails until your skill and/or your horses demeanor allow you to effectively manage such encounters safely.

Most of all, TALK TO ME if I am a cyclist or hiker. When we are on our horses we let mountain bikers know exactly what to do. Example..."Hi, if you pull over to riders right and stand we'll go right by you on your left, is that good for you?"
     
    12-15-2014, 04:25 PM
  #217
Yearling
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Originally Posted by STT GUY    
Riding muddy multi-use trails ruins the trail for other users, hikers and especially mountain bikers. Good trail stewards and courteous riders should try to avoid riding trails when damage will occur. Horses are very hard on soft/muddy trails and a couple of riders can damage a trail severely.
I'm glad you posted this, I cringed a bit this weekend when I realized that I was going through some pretty sloppy footing on our barn neighbor's land and felt badly about churning up the mud. We're in that weird freeze-thaw-freeze cycle that comes at the beginning and end of winter, and I didn't realize how much mud there was going to be on one part of the trail. I also noticed that a part of his side yard that we are authorized to ride on was pretty squishy too- we didn't actually tear up the grass, but I felt bad hearing my horse sinking down into it. It's tough, because sometimes once you're in to a muddy part you didn't expect, there's really not anything you can do except ride through- and in my case, I had to ride back through it to get home because we ride a big loop. I will have to be more careful about it though as the temps are hovering above freezing- the last thing I would want to do is take advantage of this neighbor's generosity and jeopardize our chance to ride there!
     
    12-15-2014, 08:03 PM
  #218
Started
It has always been standard when riding to pass on the left; left shoulder to left shoulder. Same as vehicles on roads, so this should not be an issue for anyone, but just in case, I always call out "passing on left" esp on multi-use trails when I meet a biker. So far have never seen runners on the mountain trails we ride, but it could happen I guess.

As far as muddy trails go, I don't try to ride on muddy trails on purpose, because it could be dangerous on the mountain trails, however, we have run into muddy spots, and sometimes they can't be avoided.

The trails I ride on used to be horse only, then at some point the bikers wanted to ride them, so they became multi-use. Now the water crosssings are all gone, covered with bridges and culverts, and stone keeps showing up on more and more of the trails.

This is not a benefit for the horses, and honestly, I don't understand why the trails changed to multi-use. There are plently of walking trails that could have been opened up to bikers, and a whole other mountain range with bike trails, so it is a bit hard to see the horse trails, when those are the only ones, be taken over by bikers.

Not to mention all the forest roads that the bikers can use.

Nothing personal against bikers, but horses never seem to be allowed on bike trails, so why do they have to be on the few we have?

Just my two cents.
     
    12-16-2014, 10:07 PM
  #219
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnitaAnne    
It has always been standard when riding to pass on the left; left shoulder to left shoulder. Same as vehicles on roads, so this should not be an issue for anyone, but just in case, I always call out "passing on left" esp on multi-use trails when I meet a biker. So far have never seen runners on the mountain trails we ride, but it could happen I guess.

As far as muddy trails go, I don't try to ride on muddy trails on purpose, because it could be dangerous on the mountain trails, however, we have run into muddy spots, and sometimes they can't be avoided.

The trails I ride on used to be horse only, then at some point the bikers wanted to ride them, so they became multi-use. Now the water crosssings are all gone, covered with bridges and culverts, and stone keeps showing up on more and more of the trails.

This is not a benefit for the horses, and honestly, I don't understand why the trails changed to multi-use. There are plently of walking trails that could have been opened up to bikers, and a whole other mountain range with bike trails, so it is a bit hard to see the horse trails, when those are the only ones, be taken over by bikers.

Not to mention all the forest roads that the bikers can use.

Nothing personal against bikers, but horses never seem to be allowed on bike trails, so why do they have to be on the few we have?

Just my two cents.

I will try to answer your questions as best I can. FWIW, the majority of our trails are multi-use, but we have a unwritten agreement that certain ones are horse centric, usually sandy trails or trails with not much "flow" so these are nice for horses and not so much for bikes.

Bike centric trails tend to have more slickrock around here and are close to cliff edges or mesa edges.

We do have a couple bikes only and horses only trails systems and that's nice.

The Back Country horsemen here in SW Utah have built less than five miles of trail (and that's being VERY generous) in the last ten years while the mountain biking community has built (and PAID for) well over 100 in just the last five. Also, when trail maintenance days take place, they are nearly void of equestrian rider volunteers. Don't know why that is..just that it is.

If I were you, I would reach out to the mountain biker community and not just tell them what you prefer to see, but rather show up with a bunch of equestrian volunteers on trail maintenance days and help. We don't have much in the way of water crossings here in SW Utah, but up in Sun Valley, ID where we go in July and August, the stream crossings are preserved and bridges built as alternate routes for those not wishing to get wet or use during high water times. I like that a lot.
     

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