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    08-23-2012, 08:11 PM
  #31
nyx
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Darrin    
The other half used to work at a shelter, the number one breed turned in was dalmations. They are hard headed and are not the best listners which means they are not for everyone. Her mom owned one too, ended up having to take here to a professional trainer and even then she only kinda sorta listened to her.
Sorry, but I don't believe that's true about the whole breed. Iv owned one and she was very smart and loyal, but would only listen to imediate family she would not listen to anyone else, perhaps that is why all the dogs at the pound are like that. Plus iv known a few other dalmations that have been just like I described.
Don't mean to be rude but a breed wouldnt be discriminated just because of ones personal experience.
I do respect your opinion though, so don't get me wrong.
     
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    08-23-2012, 08:50 PM
  #32
Green Broke
Not taking offense but from what I've seen they take a more knowledgeable dog owner. Unfortunately I've seen way to many dog owners that know absolutely nothing about raising and training dogs. I don't think for a second that someone who knows what they are doing will have a problem, obviously her mother falls into the category of not knowing what to do and the dog ran all over her because of that.

To put it another way, it's **** near impossible to ruin a golden retriever but pretty darn easy to ruin a pitbull. I put dalmations closer to pitbulls than golden retrievers. Before pit owners get all up in arms, yeah they can be a really good dog but if you want a mean one you'll get a mean one.
     
    08-23-2012, 09:08 PM
  #33
nyx
Weanling
Hahayep that makes total sence! :)
Scrible was quiet the cranky old thing when it came to other dogs entering the yard, even cats and unless we were home to put the hard word on her we would find a cat in more than one peice :( but unlike our pit she would actually listen if we told her 'no' and our pit even went through professional training. But both the most friendliest people dogs :) funny how some things turn out.
     
    08-23-2012, 11:58 PM
  #34
Weanling
Well I wont be getting a dog until spring probably and I will take a look in the shelter. I never thought of dobermans but they are a nice dog, my mother used to raise them when I was a kid (a Long time ago) . I have owned one dalmatian and would never ever have another one. He was obedient but he hated all the other pets and tried to kill them. As he got older he got meaner and it got to the point where he would growl at us if we even walked too close to him. I am not in any way suggesting the whole breed is like that but it was such a bad experience I would not try another one.
I have had boxers most of my adult life but I never knew that as a breed they had heart issues. I should have known because we lost two boxers to congenital heart failure, just never thought about it I guess. The boxer I have now is too old and arthritic to go on rides , the heat never seemed to bother him but I livein Northern Ontario Canada and it doesn't get as hot here as it does in the states
     
    08-24-2012, 08:21 AM
  #35
Showing
I am broadly familiar with where Artemisblossom will ride as it's much like mine. In heavily forested areas a dog can be your worst enemy. This was passed on to me by a camp owner who deals in deer and bear hunts. The dog will run after the animal barking which will either get the animal running away or it becomes annoyed with the dog (think bears) and give chase. Where does the dog go - back to you. You could suddenly be faced with a bear coming out of the bush and in all probability your horse will have nothing to do with it and bolt for home. If you're lucky you'll stay on unscathed but you could find yourself wrapped around a tree while Dobbin crashes thro the bush on the shortest way home. Your horse will tell you if there's something he's concerned with. BTW, don't ride in the bush when the moose are in rut. A bull is too unpredictable.
     
    08-24-2012, 11:06 AM
  #36
Weanling
Most people will probably disagree with me but I'd recommend a pit bull. They have a bad rep but if trained properly then they make great dogs. Mine comes on trails with me and she's the sweetest thing in the world and has amazing obedience. I also have a shiba inu. They may be small dogs but they were bred to hunt baboons foxes and wolves in the mountains so they're quite resilient and brave. They have to be trained properly or they tend to let their hunting instinct take over. Cattle dogs are good companions or dingos but either way you're going to have to have immediate obedience to any command you give because it's difficult to hold a leash and control your horse at the same time.
     
    08-24-2012, 07:59 PM
  #37
Weanling
Yes, whatever your breed, putting the time into the correct training before-hand means all the difference. I even scheduled private lessons at a barn with my dog and one of their dog-proof mounts, developing a training program with a thrilled coach. She loved working on something entirely different and by the time he was ready to join me on the trail, he understood how to heel by the horse, not under the horse, lol! I could call that dog of a rabbit chase. Boxers can have pretty high prey drive, but nothing like a terrier's. Then again, your beagles can have a pretty single-tracked mind... I guess that could be said of many hounds. Your herding breeds can also be intense. Whatever you get, educating yourself on the breed's original intent will prepare you for training with and against some of those traits that would otherwise mak them difficult companions on the trail.
     
    08-24-2012, 08:47 PM
  #38
Green Broke
I've already commented on this thread, but I wish my lab were still alive. If only they lived as long as we do.........
     
    08-27-2012, 09:44 PM
  #39
Weanling
I have German shepherds and corgis. A little herding instinct makes them stick with you and not wander off to hunt. But to much herding instinct like a border collie or blue heeler means they want to herd your horse and most horse don't like barking nipping dogs on their heels.
     
    08-29-2012, 09:22 AM
  #40
Yearling
I have 2 bloodhounds and they are as different as night and day. One is very houndy and she will take off on a scent and follow her nose. The other is more people oriented than my lab. He can't stand being left alone. Has to be near you every moment. I honestly doubt my female could be trusted to stick with me on a ride. The male would follow but he is such a klutzy goofball that I'm afraid he would get tangled under the horses legs.

My male tracks humans. His motivation...find friend. Perfect for finding a lost child or senior in our endless north woods. When he is on a people scent you need to keep him on a line because he becomes so intent that he will walk into trees, fall off rocks, smack into parked cars. The professional search dogs you see are kept on a long line when working not because they don't listen but to protect the dog from themselves. They get so focused that they will crash and burn. Not a graceful hound by any stretch though when Gus is working good for me it's totally amazing. Nor are they really the dog to take down a criminal. They are pretty friendly by nature. Police generally have a shephard running with the hounds tracking a criminal. The bloodhounds are pulled back when the bad guy is found and the shepherd is allowed to do his thing. I think but I'm not certain that Gus might find his lost set if somebody threatened my daughter and I but he is such a coward I really don't know. Few people would want to chance pissing off a 155 lb hound anyways. He does give me early warning which is all I really need.

My female is very friendly but she was a rescue. I got her from a bunch of druggies in the southern part of the state. They didn't have her long. They got her from another jerk who tried to turn her into a hunting dog. She is terrified of young men, terrified of guns. I've had her a year now, she's improving but still young adult males send her into hiding. Very hard to discipline her in any way because she is convinced your going to beat the daylights out of her. Was one of those things where I couldn't leave without taking the dog with me. She was so covered in fleas that we stopped at petsmart to see the vet on the way home. Had the worst case of flea dermatitis I had ever seen, both ears were infected and she was missing a good deal of her hair. Bloodhound ears need a little extra care. All things considered she is still very friendly. My first sight of her had the woman's babies climbing all over her. She didn't mind the kids pulling and patting at all. This lady was 20 and had 3 kids under 3 yrs old and one in the oven. Had her hands pretty full between babies, dog and an idiot boyfriend who showed me his big new crack lighter like a kid with a new toy. Dog left with me and the state got a call about the kids.

The coats on my hounds are both very different. My male has wiry hair with very little soft fur. Gets no fuzzy undercoat. The female has more fine fur and gets a little fuzzy. I'm not entirely certain that she doesn't have a little redbone in her but is mostly bloodhound. Thankfully I have no critter allergies but her hair is fine enough where I could see it be irritating.

Another thing to consider is the size. My Gus towers over me when on his hind legs. He is 2 years old and still very much a pup. The "mommy is home!" greeting can knock me to the floor. There is no safe place to hide food from a dog that stands over six feet tall and can track scents that are days old. A little seperation anxiety leads him to chew an article of clothing that belongs to the last person that left the house. I can generally walk him on a fairly loose leash but if he decided to pull there isn't much I could do besides hunker down and pretend I'm an anchor and even then I could find myself body surfing. You see the state troopers and SR groups work their hounds in a harness. I can't do that because Gus can pull twice as hard in a harness. With the collar he at least starts to get uncomfortable and slows down a bit. Probably the reason you see the troopers with bloods are mostly large ex-marine types. My 5'4" inch female body is kind of like a kite at the end of a string in a high wind at times.

I grew up with Bluetick hounds and the bloods are very different. Very people oriented. No where near as standoffish. If you want a pet hound this is the dog but it is still a hound with hound moments.

http://www.nehollahounds.com/buck.html


The link is my dog's daddy. Gus is very much his daddy's boy. Spitting image! Very picture intense webpage. Very beautiful bloodhounds! Like potato chips I will always have another!
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