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  • My horse wont' go past the pasture with his herd
  • How to train a horse togo outona trail alone

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    03-03-2012, 02:15 AM
  #11
Green Broke
Two schools of thought on this,
One way, Make him go out alone no matter what, use a crop, use spurs, or get off and lead him,
MY walker was a nightmare heading out. Every bit as bad or worse then this. To compund the issue he would spook at anything and everything, andd spin and head back. Or at least he pretended to spook. I think he had a nervous nelly owner that would let him get away with it. And get off him.
I would have to get off and dang near drag him a mile down the trail. Then I got to where I started jogging with him about a mile at the beggining of each ride, then leading him couple hundred yards, now he's fine. Took awhile. He still gets sticky feet the first mile or so. Likes to pretend everything on the trail is going to eat him so he has to stop in panic mode. He's just faking.
Second way, let him go back to the barn, then run him till his tounge is hanging out. Walk out. If he turns back repeat.
     
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    03-03-2012, 11:57 AM
  #12
Yearling
I got fed up with trying to ride my horses away from their corral.
I just load them in the trailer, take them to a trail. At least then they don't know where their herd mates are or where the feed manager is. So they will listen to me and I have less battles to fight while I get them doing what I expect them to do.

After they have learned to go down a trail by themselves. It's not too hard a battle to get them to ride away from the barn or the group when I'm out on a trail ride or hunting.
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    03-03-2012, 03:12 PM
  #13
Weanling
Paintedhorse that's a great idea. I've read from a lot of people that their horses are much better behaved when trailered to another location anyway. That's a great way to get them started going out alone.

Joe between the two options you listed, I think #2 is safer. I'm sure there are very experienced horsepeople who could do #1 (just MAKE the horse go) but if a horse is just balking the whole way and a rider has to kick, hit and yell, I think it could escalate into a bad situation.
Personally I think the idea of "back to the barn=more work" vs "going out on the trail=easy" is the better way. I could be wrong. But I'd rather my horse think of the trail as something easy rather than fight with him the entire way.

I really like the one woman's idea of little treats along the way. Not that it's a good idea to get a horse treat driven. Now he goes out alone with no treats. She said just initially she had to get his mind on something positive and give him something to look forward to and it worked out great.

Funny how different horses are. The one horse I ride does way better alone. I've ridden him with other horses and it's not good. He wants to be in front, bites at the other horses, seems more jumpy. Like he's a different horse. He's also 20 years old and I think the commotion of other horses just bugs him. I guess it's all what they are used to.
     
    03-03-2012, 08:07 PM
  #14
Weanling
After riding him today on the trail with another horse again, the other girl and I have decided it's probably a mix of spring fever and their herd, since they're so conveniently placed on the trail. Yes, out by himself, there's probably some barn sour in there, too. Both of our horses are pastured together, and both threw the biggest fit. We had to fight to get them to go past the pasture. They both crow hopped, bronco-bucked, reared, and just all around gave us hell, but we stayed on and showed 'em who was boss and managed to get out there. Once out there, Butterscotch did well for me, but the mare (Willi) spooked needlessly at everything when she'd done just fine the other day.

I think I'm just going to have to work him every day I go out there, train us both to know each other, and then I believe he'll eventually do what I want him to. He has wonderful potential, he just needs someone as stubborn as him.

Today, my new friend and I basically MADE those horses go. It was a private rodeo, but hey! That's what makes riding fun when you're beyond beginner, but not yet an expert. I don't show anymore, so I like to ride horses who can keep it interesting but work well once I get them under control.
     
    03-04-2012, 07:18 AM
  #15
Green Broke
Option #1 doesnt take a great horseman, get off and lead him if he is getting dangerous to be on.
Make him go. If you can do it from the saddle with tools great. If not do it from the ground.
     
    03-04-2012, 02:25 PM
  #16
Weanling
Stoddard that's great that you got him out on the trail! Way to go! That's awesome.

I think it's a great idea to work him from the ground and lead him out there if need be. My aunt did that with her horse. She said she spent a few months walking her like a dog on a leash, lol. I just meant it would be dangerous for anyone other than an advanced rider to be out on a trail alone, in the saddle, with a horse that's bucking and rearing and still forcing him to move forward. But Stoddard sounds like a pro so I'm sure she handled it well.
     
    03-04-2012, 04:04 PM
  #17
Weanling
LOL, I'm no pro. I'm just a 19 year old who's fallen off enough times to know how to stay on. I'm going to use both the force of moving forward and simply leading him in and see where it goes. He seems smart, so this will all be very interesting. I'm not going to give into him and walk out there every time, but I'm not going to spend every ride irritating him.
     
    03-21-2012, 04:14 PM
  #18
Foal
It hasn't been mentioned here, but my horse would go down the trail just fine and then stop. Nothing, I mean nothing would get him to go on, not one step further. I would be stubborn too, get off and walk him to the destination.

I took him to a horse breeder who gave me the BEST advice. The horse wants to go to the barn because that's where the reward is. The reward may be as simple as getting that darn saddle and you off his back. So the trick is to reward him on the trail. This simply means get off and pet him, then continue on. Of course this is easier said than done, but once you start, the horse will look forward to that reward and WANT to go! I used to get off my horse and just let him graze. She suggested a hand full of grain.

Another thing she told me to try is to go for a short ride and then work his butt off when you return. That way he doesn't associate going home with not working. ANNNDDDDD I have read that you shouldn't take the saddle off in the same spot all the time. They get used to the routine and know that the cross ties, hitching post whatever means that darn saddle is off. I took my horse into the pasture a few times and took his saddle off. It was so funny because he kept looking back like, "mom, what aaarrreee you doing? The post is back there! I NEVER wear this thing in here" I also rode him in th pasture so no relief there.

Keep things new and fresh. Walk him with a lead on the way out, give him a treat, ride him home and work the snot out of him. I wish you luck, and oh, HAVE FUN!
     
    03-21-2012, 07:40 PM
  #19
Weanling
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Originally Posted by jennyandjesse    
It hasn't been mentioned here, but my horse would go down the trail just fine and then stop. Nothing, I mean nothing would get him to go on, not one step further. I would be stubborn too, get off and walk him to the destination.

I took him to a horse breeder who gave me the BEST advice. The horse wants to go to the barn because that's where the reward is. The reward may be as simple as getting that darn saddle and you off his back. So the trick is to reward him on the trail. This simply means get off and pet him, then continue on. Of course this is easier said than done, but once you start, the horse will look forward to that reward and WANT to go! I used to get off my horse and just let him graze. She suggested a hand full of grain.

Another thing she told me to try is to go for a short ride and then work his butt off when you return. That way he doesn't associate going home with not working. ANNNDDDDD I have read that you shouldn't take the saddle off in the same spot all the time. They get used to the routine and know that the cross ties, hitching post whatever means that darn saddle is off. I took my horse into the pasture a few times and took his saddle off. It was so funny because he kept looking back like, "mom, what aaarrreee you doing? The post is back there! I NEVER wear this thing in here" I also rode him in th pasture so no relief there.

Keep things new and fresh. Walk him with a lead on the way out, give him a treat, ride him home and work the snot out of him. I wish you luck, and oh, HAVE FUN!
Well, I can't just take him out to his pasture and ride him there. Not exactly appropriate in my situation. But I intend to work on it one way or another, even if I have to simply take him for walks like a dog out there via halter, lead, and heel-toe express. I'll get him there. I'm determined. I'll probably try carrots and apple nuggets to encourage that going on the trail can be fun. He's also been separated from his "herd," so maybe it'll eventually take some edge from his separation anxiety.
     
    03-22-2012, 10:23 PM
  #20
Trained
Did you try the drunken sailor walk? The key for my horse was taking him a few steps past his comfort area each day. The problem was getting him to take those steps. We did it with drunken sailor walk.

When you get to that place where he won't go anymore forward, take both your legs off, or rather leave them hanging gently at his sides. Then take one rein at a time and get him to follow his nose. He'll take a few steps to one side, then drop that rein, pick up the other, and he'll wander in that way. The resulting S shaped walk will result in forward motion. Somehow the alternating reins seems to get their mind more focused on the rider too which is always nice. Try it. Nothing to lose!
     

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