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post #21 of 29 Old 03-22-2012, 09:24 PM
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Did you try the drunken sailor walk? The key for my horse was taking him a few steps past his comfort area each day. The problem was getting him to take those steps. We did it with drunken sailor walk.

When you get to that place where he won't go anymore forward, take both your legs off, or rather leave them hanging gently at his sides. Then take one rein at a time and get him to follow his nose. He'll take a few steps to one side, then drop that rein, pick up the other, and he'll wander in that way. The resulting S shaped walk will result in forward motion. Somehow the alternating reins seems to get their mind more focused on the rider too which is always nice. Try it. Nothing to lose!
ooohhh I like this! I can't wait to try it!
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post #22 of 29 Old 03-22-2012, 09:27 PM
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I forget which trainer to credit. I saw either Chris Cox or John Lyons do it. I had immediate success with it. The horse doesn't even seem to know he's moving forward. It's great!

You just have to see your distance...you don't have to like it.
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Probably was Chris because I watched all John's tapes and he's the one who does the circling. I will try anything once or twice!
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post #24 of 29 Old 03-23-2012, 11:59 AM Thread Starter
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Did you try the drunken sailor walk? The key for my horse was taking him a few steps past his comfort area each day. The problem was getting him to take those steps. We did it with drunken sailor walk.

When you get to that place where he won't go anymore forward, take both your legs off, or rather leave them hanging gently at his sides. Then take one rein at a time and get him to follow his nose. He'll take a few steps to one side, then drop that rein, pick up the other, and he'll wander in that way. The resulting S shaped walk will result in forward motion. Somehow the alternating reins seems to get their mind more focused on the rider too which is always nice. Try it. Nothing to lose!
I can definitely do nothing more than try. When I attempted to regain control with circling, all he did was... well, still manage to make his way home! As hilarious as it was, it was incredibly frustrating. We've been out on the trail since with another, but I haven't been able to gain the time to take him alone.

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Have you tried treating him at the destination point? As I mentioned it might help to reward him on the trail with something, maybe nothing more than just getting off.

I understand your frustration. I'm glad my guy doesn't do that any more. I hate to admit that all it took was one flick of the reins on his hind end and he knew I wasn't putting up with it any longer. I wish you luck!
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Have you tried treating him at the destination point? As I mentioned it might help to reward him on the trail with something, maybe nothing more than just getting off.

I understand your frustration. I'm glad my guy doesn't do that any more. I hate to admit that all it took was one flick of the reins on his hind end and he knew I wasn't putting up with it any longer. I wish you luck!
I wish that's all it took. But no, I haven't. I have discovered he'll follow me anywhere when I'm on foot (have not tried it on trail).

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I had a horse that really didn't want to go off by herself.
I tried the treat at the end of the trail thing. As soon as we got as far as I was planning to ride, I would get off and give her a treat. It seemed like a wonderful idea; however, it really didn't work that well. She kept on refusing. I never did get that horse to do all that great at riding off by herself. She was so gentle that I ended up using her for my "company" horse. She would follow my other horse anywhere. She just hated to lead the way.

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post #28 of 29 Old 03-23-2012, 10:03 PM
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I think you should do more groundwork and gain more respect and trust from him. Going out alone is unnatural and it's very scary for some horses. Their instincts tell them to stay with the herd because they are easy prey otherwise. It doesn't sound like he believes that you are the leader and will take care of him. Handwalking him along some trails may be a good idea too.
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DancingArabian: I just finished a book by Chris Irwin about horses that said to gain respect and trust. I'm actually planning to learn how to teach groundwork, then teach him. I know how to round pen a horse, I just don't know how to start one into learning how to work in one.

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