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post #11 of 39 Old 03-16-2011, 12:33 PM
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If you think that is all the history of reining you are not correct. Reining started as a way to show ranch horses. Each maneuver was chosen to show off a purpose of a ranch or a cow horse. Do you even know where the NRHA was formed??

Each western even was formed and evolved from some type of work needed to be done on a farm or ranch.

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post #12 of 39 Old 03-16-2011, 01:18 PM
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Sorry, Heidi, but riding in an arena is not Western riding. That is just riding in a Western saddle for an event or for a show. Riding on the trails or doing ranch work in a pasture - that is Western riding. Most of the men I know in Texas that make their living working cattle will post if they have to cover ground - easier for them and their horse.

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I have to agree with Iride, posting is strictly forbidden in any kind of western show but out on the ranch, it is very common to see cowboys posting if they have to cover ground at a long trot.

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.. Do you even know where the NRHA was formed??...
More to the point, do I care? The NRHA doesn't define western riding. Reining is no more the peak of western riding than dressage is the peak of English riding. Reining is one of the ways western riders have fun and show off their horses and their riding.

Someone riding trails isn't some slob who just happens to have their butt parked in a western saddle. Their western riding is every bit as valid a form of western riding as reining is. Maybe more so. A rancher doesn't need to do sliding stops or 360 spins, but he needs to cover ground without wearing out his horse.
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Again I have do doubt that posting is done out on the range. I also have no double that at some point people trail riding will also post. I also think we need to define trail riding vs. competitive trail riding. Most people who trail ride do not do it competitively nor are they needing to cover large amounts of ground in a fast manner. Most trail rides ride a few times a month or maybe even a few times a week. It will also vary from area to area. Around here there are 100's of miles of trails for horse back riding. Very few people ride those trails past a walk 80% of the time.

There is a big difference between what needs to be done out on a range and what is needed to learn how to ride. Most young people who take lessons will never see a large Ramonda or even the open range needing to find cattle. The ones who do are probable not going to be taking lessons.

Again posting in a western saddle it not something that is normally taught or needed. At least in the truest seance of the word. I would venture to say that most of the cowboys who you see posting are just posting the easiest way and have little connection at to why they are posting out side the fact they know it makes things a bit easier on the horse. TO me posting is more of a way to learn how to feel your horse and to learn how to rate your horses and for the horse to learn many different things.

Again you can agree or not.

Also reining was developed from ranch work. It has just evolved into what you see today.

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Sorry, Heidi, but riding in an arena is not Western riding. That is just riding in a Western saddle for an event or for a show. Riding on the trails or doing ranch work in a pasture - that is Western riding. Most of the men I know in Texas that make their living working cattle will post if they have to cover ground - easier for them and their horse.

That sounds a better way around for me.

This is the second time I've seen this debate recently, it's obviously a hot topic.
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What if it is an Aussie Saddle? My friend posts in hers and I don't in mine.
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...Again posting in a western saddle it not something that is normally taught or needed. At least in the truest seance of the word. I would venture to say that most of the cowboys who you see posting are just posting the easiest way and have little connection at to why they are posting out side the fact they know it makes things a bit easier on the horse...Again you can agree or not...
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...Also you do not post western. It can be used as a training tool for horse and rider but past that has no purpose in any type of western riding....
I was taught posting by an old cowboy who claimed it was the best way to cover lots of ground and still have a horse ready to work. My daughter is being taught posting by a woman whose first love was barrel racing, and who rarely sits the trot when on the trail. My horses seem much more willing to trot when I post than when my 175 lbs sits the trot, regardless of saddle type. I can't imagine why any cowboy or I would need any other reason to learn posting than "it makes things a bit easier on the horse". That is "need" enough. That is "purpose" enough.

But I also find it very condescending to suggest that most trail riders or cowboys who post don't know why they are doing it. It is possible to be serious about your riding without doing it competitively. The only judge I need to be serious about is my horse.
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I am with NRHAreiner as per usaul. Its depends what the rider is plannin to do. If they are going to show they have to follow the rules. If they just want to trail ride have at er'. But if the rider is goin to grow up and give lessons to people who want to show and doesn't follow show rules your just making the problem bigger.

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What if it is an Aussie Saddle? My friend posts in hers and I don't in mine.
I don't think there is any real rule but in general I think most people do. I call it a stock saddle but I post in mine the only time I don't is when I'm riding my quarter horse and he is jogging really slow.

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