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        03-24-2011, 05:14 PM
      #21
    Yearling
    When I had my my mustang I trained him to jog. Which is the western equivalence to trotting. There was no way you were posting to that. You couldn't it was too slow you wouldn't be able to get a beat to it. Most western trained horses are trained to do a jog. All the people around here that ride western don't post. I do because I was english trained and my and Gizmo has a horribly choppy trot that you can not sit to. Lol. When I was learning how to ride though, I just couldn't get trotting down, so my trainer switched me to a western saddle but put the stirrups up higher than normal. And I got it down after a while. So I think in the manner of that and what the OP was getting to it works. But in most Western riding there is no posting. A lot (I think) really has to do with the horses slow jog.
         
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        03-24-2011, 05:28 PM
      #22
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    Originally Posted by nrhareiner    
    I would venture to say that most of the cowboys who you see posting are just posting the easiest way and have little connection at to why they are posting out side the fact they know it makes things a bit easier on the horse.
    Whoo...you're up on your high horse, ain't ya?

    Really, reining is nothing but a competition. Sure, it may have derived from ranch riding, but it's not even CLOSE to ranch work anymore, just like my horse running around three barrels would be of no use to a rancher. If you think THAT is real western riding, then maybe YOU should be the one reevaluating true western riding.
         
        03-24-2011, 05:35 PM
      #23
    Trained
    Let me ask you this. How may cowboys know when they are posting if they are on the correct diagonal? If you are not then you are not really helping your horse out. Being on the wrong diagonal makes it harder for a horse to balance the rider. Just like being on the wrong lead when loping. If they under stand this and are doing it then they are helping their horse if not then they might as well not even be doing it. I know a lot of cowboys. Even the ones who trot many have no idea of what diagonal they are on and the ones who might do not not fully under stand why it helps. I am not saying every single cowboy who posts their trot does not fully under stand why and how it works. However many do not. I know many English rider who do not understand why just that they must do it.
         
        03-24-2011, 06:20 PM
      #24
    Trained
    Once again though if we are talking about riding in the real world, outside of an arena there is no 'right and wrong' with diagonals or leads surely.

    We just try to very the diagonal we're posting to when we are out and about, make sure that we don't develop once side more than the other.
         
        03-24-2011, 07:38 PM
      #25
    Yearling
    Take this with a grain of salt but I believe that the trot is not actually the english equivilent to a jog. The trot (I think) is more of an extended jog.
         
        03-24-2011, 07:47 PM
      #26
    Showing
    Guys, I really think we can probably drop this. OP has not been back since shortly after this thread was posted .
         
        03-24-2011, 08:02 PM
      #27
    Banned
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    Originally Posted by nrhareiner    
    Also you do not post western. It can be used as a training tool for horse and rider but past that has no purpose in any type of western riding.
    The only way I know how to trot is to post. I've been riding for six years and the I've only ridden english twice in my entire life.

    In my opinion, posting is definitely a skill every western horseman should know. When you post, you are building your leg muscles and you learn to keep rythem with the horse.



    Not only that, but I've ridden quite a few rough trotted horses. There were two ways to ride those horses:
    1. Post
    2. Fall off
    I thought posting was the more appealing option.

    The muscles you use to post are the same muscles you use to grip with when you get into a sticky situation with a horse.

    And there have been numerous studies that shows posting is much easier on a horses back, regardless of disipline.
         
        03-24-2011, 08:50 PM
      #28
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nrhareiner    
    Let me ask you this. How may cowboys know when they are posting if they are on the correct diagonal? If you are not then you are not really helping your horse out...
    The retired cowboy who gave me some lessons in the late 70s knew about diagonals. The ex-barrel racer who is teaching my daughter was working on her diagonals today. And yes, diagonals are for turns. One doesn't trot in circles on a ranch. The owners get upset when they find they're paying someone who is riding in circles.

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    Originally Posted by Gizmo    
    When I had my my mustang I trained him to jog. Which is the western equivalence to trotting. There was no way you were posting to that. You couldn't it was too slow you wouldn't be able to get a beat to it...
    Trooper was ranch born and worked on one until I bought him at 8. He can jog, but he also can cover ground in a really nice ground-eating trot. In fact, we had to teach him that we don't want him to automatically enter that pace when he feels our butts hit the saddle. He thinks "trot = safety".
         
        03-24-2011, 08:54 PM
      #29
    Showing
    LOL, Gizmo, my guy Dobe is the same way. His typical 'trot' is more of a slow jog that is so smooth, it would be impossible to post even if I wanted to. His long trot on the other hand, not quite so smooth.
         
        03-24-2011, 09:03 PM
      #30
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by apachewhitesox    
    I don't think there is any real rule but in general I think most people do. I call it a stock saddle but I post in mine the only time I don't is when I'm riding my quarter horse and he is jogging really slow.

    Lol you call it a stock saddle cus you are IN Australia. We call em aussies over here
         

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