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    10-04-2012, 06:59 PM
  #11
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Inga    
I really like the "keeping it natural" thing. I understand where one is coming from if they only have 1 saddle and it has silver on it so they are exempt. I guess it is a slippery slope. If you allow it, do the judges start putting them up over the others that don't have it? I don' t know. It sounds like a fun, relaxed show type setting.

I loved the first video too in that the guy didn't worry about head set or moving slow etc... Seems like a fun class also.
These ranch horse types don't have the silver saddles....it's just a plain ole work saddle. And the people that DO have silver saddles, also have a work saddle. I do...I have a show saddle and a training saddle. And no, the judges don't take it into account. They couldn't tell you much about the tack because they are too busy watching the performance. I showed my WP horse last year at the AQHA shows in my training saddle, a roughout trainer with no silver. It made no difference at all because he was placed (and very well, got points) because the judge was watching the performance, not how much silver I had on the saddle. Judges REALLY DO not care.
     
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    10-04-2012, 07:26 PM
  #12
Trained
These classes have been around for a while now. They were usually a sub class of the AQHA versatility shows. The APHA uses the ASHA(American Stock Horse Association) rules for these classes and the SHOT shows are always fun. The ASHA and SHOT usually have a clinic the day before making it friendly and inviting for first timers wanting to understand and learn.

These are really great for young horses getting them used to shows and some showing experience because they are usually cheaper than breed shows or the NRCHA for the working cowhorse classes. In these shows the reining and cowhorse are seperate classes rather than put together like a NRCHA class where you would do your dry work/reining pattern then call for a cow, these ranch classes seperate the two allowing to do either one or both.

The pleasure is great for the younger horses that are getting broke, show control but don't have the collection (yet) and ability to go as slow as a WP horse. Plus posting the trot is accepted which is true to life in a ranch situation. It seems pretty easy reading the pattern but your horse must be precise on cueing on the marker(much like Dressage) and a reverse in direction is a little more like a snappy pivot, but not a true rollback, rather than a simple reverse.(learned that one the hard way! LOL)

They do have these shows at a local/open level, even at breed shows, if you look for them. These shows are the ones that I am going to right now, they are cheap(er)and I have a blast. They are laid back and I am putting some show experience on my horse for less money than a high dollar show.

I encourage anyone to try it! You don't have to have fancy tack and they are a little cheaper to show in and the people in my experience have been friendly.
     
    10-09-2012, 02:48 PM
  #13
Green Broke
Foundation likes to stay away from the glitz and glamor because they want to showcase the Quarter Horse like it would be in a working environment, doing what they were bred to do out on the ranch. A lot of the people show their are actual working cowboys. And you generally SHOULD groom, clip (not all bald like in the ears though lol), etc. your horses for Foundation shows because it puts out a good, professional image. I don't think they are going over the top, because this is to show the horse as a ranch horse, not as a primped and pampered show pony. Sure, we have lots of AQHA world champions come through the ring all the time, but they know to leave the silver behind, and just enjoy the ride. Yes, they do have rules against banding and tails, but that is because they are trying to separate themselves from AQHA shows, and I don't see anything wrong with that. Just like how some shows won't allow some things while another will. The atmosphere is for a gentle, low-key (yet highly competitive), low stress show for horse and rider. The classes show the extreme versatility of the Quarter Horse as the breed used to be; speed, cow, handiness, conformation, etc, and trying to keep it alive as the most versatile breed.
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    10-09-2012, 06:54 PM
  #14
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Originally Posted by MangoRoX87    
Foundation likes to stay away from the glitz and glamor because they want to showcase the Quarter Horse like it would be in a working environment, doing what they were bred to do out on the ranch. A lot of the people show their are actual working cowboys. And you generally SHOULD groom, clip (not all bald like in the ears though lol), etc. your horses for Foundation shows because it puts out a good, professional image. I don't think they are going over the top, because this is to show the horse as a ranch horse, not as a primped and pampered show pony. Sure, we have lots of AQHA world champions come through the ring all the time, but they know to leave the silver behind, and just enjoy the ride. Yes, they do have rules against banding and tails, but that is because they are trying to separate themselves from AQHA shows, and I don't see anything wrong with that. Just like how some shows won't allow some things while another will. The atmosphere is for a gentle, low-key (yet highly competitive), low stress show for horse and rider. The classes show the extreme versatility of the Quarter Horse as the breed used to be; speed, cow, handiness, conformation, etc, and trying to keep it alive as the most versatile breed.
My point is...AQHA DOES NOT have rules regarding the stuff mentioned, but Foundation shows do. So IMO, it does not make their shows as user friendly as AQHA, but AQHA leaves it up to the exhibitor wants to do regarding clipping, tack and that stuff. And believe me....AQHA judges could give two hoots if you have silver on your halter, your saddle, if your horses mane is long and unbanded etc. They actuallly DO watch the performance of the horse!
     
    10-09-2012, 07:03 PM
  #15
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by GotaDunQH    
My point is...AQHA DOES NOT have rules regarding the stuff mentioned, but Foundation shows do. So IMO, it does not make their shows as user friendly as AQHA, but AQHA leaves it up to the exhibitor wants to do regarding clipping, tack and that stuff. And believe me....AQHA judges could give two hoots if you have silver on your halter, your saddle, if your horses mane is long and unbanded etc. They actuallly DO watch the performance of the horse!

And yes, I understand that the AQHA doesn't have rules. What I'm trying to say is, they are trying to keep that kind of stuff OUT, that's why Foundation has rules for it. Several of the judges are also AQHA judges and go with their guidelines and trends (sometimes, thankfully not everytime), so they do what they can to keep only the ranch horses in. They don't want it just developing into another ground for the big show horses to take over, like what happens with so many local shows, for easy wins.

I'm confused as to how you don't think its user friendly, just because they like things plain. That makes it a whole lot easier, simpler, and cheaper to show and enjoy it.
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    10-09-2012, 07:54 PM
  #16
Started
I ranted and then I erased it because I should know better than to get involved.
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    10-09-2012, 08:54 PM
  #17
Green Broke
I would like to see the show ring go total no bling. Except for costume.
You don't see a pleasure rider or trail rider out in sequences. Some may have a little silver on a bridle, but if you want to a fashion show, go to one, and not a horse show!
     
    10-09-2012, 09:04 PM
  #18
Started
Who gives a crap? If I want to wear sparkles, I'll wear them. It in no way affects the performance of the horse - so who cares? Just like I'll also wear makeup, high heels, and jewelry even though I'm not "in a fashion show" during my daily life.

And if ANYONE would actually bother talking to judges, like I have, THEY DON'T CARE. I have been in frequent communication with a range of judges, who have all told me, the performance of the horse comes first.

And another, thing, on the note of "They don't want it just developing into another ground for the big show horses to take over, like what happens with so many local shows, for easy wins", be thankful that those “BSH” people are SPENDING THEIR “BSH” MONEY at your show, so your show can afford to have more shows, better prizes, and can support their club. We are NOT there to steal your ribbons! We do not have this petty agenda to go to an open show and win everything just to feel better about ourselves. Everybody has the right to practice.
     
    10-09-2012, 09:41 PM
  #19
Super Moderator
Disregarding the discussion on bling, I liked this horse a lot! That's some nice smooth gaits and a happy, balanced horse. I would ride him any day of the week and call that a pleasure. Just wish that rider would sit up straight and not hunch over like a pink vulture.
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    10-09-2012, 09:47 PM
  #20
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Originally Posted by oh vair oh    
We are NOT there to steal your ribbons! We do not have this petty agenda to go to an open show and win everything just to feel better about ourselves. Everybody has the right to practice.
I totally agree with this. I know several breed show kids who go to open shows and I frequently hear people complain about how they shouldn't be allowed to bring the super nice horses to an open show. I simply stare at them and walk away.
     

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