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    08-08-2012, 06:09 PM
  #121
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Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
Actually, maybe I'll try cutting. Or do you think all the dressage training my horse has would be better applied to barrels? Hmm....
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Go for it. Barrels would be a bit easier as you need to be able to read the cows but that is more you then the horse. Althouhg a bit if cow helps as you CAN NOT CUE the horse.

You would be surprized how much these things can help when done CORRECTLY.
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    08-08-2012, 06:10 PM
  #122
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**head**desk**

I am getting that we other folk, who use particular manuevers we associate with dressage (ie leg yield) to improve our horses of other disciplines can do so according to anebel, as long as we do not say we don't mention anything about it having anything to do with dressage, since, apparently, that term is reserved for a select few. Ahh. Now I have it. The only ones allowed to say that, at least according to her, are those who are riding it at a high level.....perhaps GP or Olympic.

I honestly think this has become WAY more complicated than it needs to be for some----most of us "get it".
     
    08-08-2012, 06:14 PM
  #123
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Oh-and anebel-i think you might actually enjoy something else for a change. I think you might have some fun. Go for it! BTW-one of the first things I learned in western riding-a smile is necessary.
     
    08-08-2012, 06:19 PM
  #124
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Well when I canter in a circle on a long rein I don't call it reining...

ETA why thank you FnB I do have a lot of fun on my horse especially winning trail classes. However in FEI dressage its considered respectful to have a solemn look on your face while competing.
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    08-08-2012, 06:19 PM
  #125
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ETA I bet he'd run 1D because of all the dressage he does.
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SInce again you added this after the fact I will address it.

I know a lady here who is a Dressage rider. Not sure what level she is showing now but she was showing 1st 2nd a few years ago. She also takes that same horse and runs barrels with him. She does quite well. Usually in the money and there is A LOT of compition around here in speed events. So sure why not. Again anything done CORRECTLY can bennefite something else.
     
    08-08-2012, 06:24 PM
  #126
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SInce again you added this after the fact I will address it.

I know a lady here who is a Dressage rider. Not sure what level she is showing now but she was showing 1st 2nd a few years ago. She also takes that same horse and runs barrels with him. She does quite well. Usually in the money and there is A LOT of compition around here in speed events. So sure why not. Again anything done CORRECTLY can bennefite something else.
Well because my horse does PSG/I1 he must be able to do EVERYTHING then! Screw dressage, I'll do reining or barrel racing because they are both so easy that a first or second level dressage horse can do them! And dressage being the basis for riding I'll definitely win.
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    08-08-2012, 06:24 PM
  #127
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Well when I canter in a circle on a long rein I don't call it reining...
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You can call it anything you want. Heck you can call it roping. You know they lope around in a circle too at times.

Again is it just adding a tool. Since these tools are used as a maneuver/movement in Dressage that is why Dressage is used. It is no more or less then that. If they where a movement/maneuver used is some other discipline then I would say that. It has nothing to do with levels at which one shows. They are used as tools.

I use cattle to see how well my horse is broke at times. I call it what it is. Reined cow horse.
     
    08-08-2012, 06:26 PM
  #128
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You can't just pick and choose maneuvers from a discipline and say you're doing it. I can't just pick and choose numbers from my ass, do an engineering design and call myself an engineer. The world doesn't work like that.

ETA yes leg yielding etc.. are used in other disciplines - you rein and use them! It's not a dressage specific thing and just because you do them does not mean you are doing dressage.
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    08-08-2012, 06:28 PM
  #129
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Seriously! Trot is called for in a dressage test - does that mean that anybody who trots is doing dressage???

I completely get where you are coming from
Anebel and I think it is just reading comprehension that appears to be lacking!

I hate the 'dressage is the foundation of everything' argument. I have done lower level dressage but now my discipline of choice is campdrafting. It took me YEARS to figure out I wast wrong because I couldn't and don't ride in a dressage position. I was forever concious that my heels weren't down, my foot was home in the stirrup, my legs and upper body titled forward. Co
Completely wrong for dressage! But completely right for campdrafting. Dressage does not come into what I do. I use UNIVERSAL maneuvers like leg yield, counter arc, etc. to improve my horses training and performance. I am training campdrafting, not dressage. I still occasionall do a lower level dressage test and do well, because my horse is universally well trained. It's the same reason I can go to an ASH show or go do low level jumping. Not because I train dressage, simply because I train.
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    08-08-2012, 06:29 PM
  #130
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Well because my horse does PSG/I1 he must be able to do EVERYTHING then! Screw dressage, I'll do reining or barrel racing because they are both so easy that a first or second level dressage horse can do them! And dressage being the basis for riding I'll definitely win.
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See here is the differance between you and myself. I would say come on and enter a Green class. You will have fun. You may even score well. Since you have the control needed to perform the maneuvers. Now will you win against a finished reiner with sliders on with a rider who can actually get that horse show? Maybe, maybe not but you would still have a good chance of getting a decent score coming home with a bit of money and have A LOT of fun.

Keep in mind that to get a 70 in reining all you need to do is stay on patern and peform the maneuvers as discribed. Meaning CORRECTLY. See how that word keeps coming up. It is not about the level you show at it is about doing things correcly. It is about taking that tool and using when needed.
     

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