^I'm not going to get into it with you on WP and the training pyramid. There are a BUNCH of WP trainers I know personally....(including my own, who did...by the way...share a barn with two Dressage trainers and they rode together EVERYDAY) who use the training scale. So don't go showing me some bad examples of WP where it is NOT used. Because I'll go find a bunch of Dressage vids that are wrong as well. As for the horse in the still photo? Of course that is a jog....anyone who knows, rides and trains WP knows that. Your point being? What...the horse is not tracking up? Well guess what...it wouldn't be a jog then, it would be a trot. The legs would be extended more and there would be no jog.
I haven't been in on this discussion because I dont' know enough about WP to really compare it to anything. However , I have to admit thinking much the same way as Core. I just haven't seen many videos on Youtube of horses in WP moving in a way that looks correct , or even healthy.
Therefore, if you do have some examples of what it should looke like, I would be most glad to see. It is sad that it should be so misrepresented by the many videos on YT that do make it look bad.
Who is it that decides if a horse moves CORRECT or INCORRECT?
Because horses do neither Dressage or Western Pleasure on their own... it is a trained discipline that horses at taught.
As far as I can tell, horses do not travel in a collected manner at all unless trained to do so as some point.
That does not mean that after they are taught that they will not travel like that at liberty.
YOu will see horses move in a collected manner when they are trotting out to meet a newcomer, for example, or a rival. The excitement makes them tuck the pelvis under, lower the hocks, lift the front, including the neck which will be lifted from the base and arched on top. That posture is one of collection and self carriage.
I'm in way over my head on this thread. I don't know much about dressage (except it's lovely to watch) and my limited riding experience has been western. I just want to be able to mosey around on them. :) My favorite gait is called the mosey. Lol.