Originally Posted by tasunke
I'm sorry but Rolkur isn't used in WP all the time. I have no idea where you saw it or read it. In VA, I've never seen any of the WP riders do rolkur, horses are rode on a loose rein and no peanut rollers.
I really dislike when people pick on a certain disciplines when it all honesty, ALL disciplines have certain way of doing things, whether we agree or not. I don't go around saying all dressage riders do rolkur or WP are constantly in their horses mouth.
I don't know, down here in Texas I see a lot of riders who flex their horses into their shoulders and then give them a big release after they've held them a while. I might be wrong on what the "definitive" technique of rolkur is, but it usually involved hyperflexing the horse behind the vertical to stretch the neck and promote softness. It's a controversial technique that can be damaging if done for too long and too hard. I train my horses through complete softness, and will sometimes pull them into their shoulder and let them move through it for a couple strides at the jog. Then they are released into a complete drape and carry themselves very nicely. But I've prepared them in such a way that the hyperflexion comes with very little resistance. And I rarely do it on a horse that isn't finished, and I rarely do it at all. Maybe it's not true "rolkur". I don't know. I'm not saying anyone else should do it, and I'm not saying ALL western pleasure riders do it, but I see it a lot in the south, whether it's good or bad I'm not to judge.
I probably should've just kept my big mouth shut to begin with