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    09-14-2011, 11:48 PM
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has it improved?

I've been out of the show ring for about three years... Charlie wasnt liking it...
When I left there was alot of trouble with the tropers, and the peanut rollers(heads dragging the ground) I was just wondering if its gotten any better? Don't get me wrong I like my horses head to be level and collected but what I was seeing was horses with their heads literally no more the an two feet above the ground, with no forward movement? Has that changed at all?
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    09-15-2011, 12:12 AM
I went to a Paint horse show a couple weeks ago to visit with a college buddy who happened to be showing there. His horse ended up going lame so we sat and watched most of the classes. The peanut rolling has gotten a ton better. I really didn't see any with their noses on the ground. There were still several of the super bobbley lopers one or two of which I believe ended up placing. I also saw a few sideways lopers which I don't particularly care for. My friend tried to explain it to me, but I still think it looks cruddy.

By and large though I think it's coming along slowly but surely. Of course this is the only breed show I've been to in quite a while, so maybe that's not the best thing to go off of. I'm hoping to get into showing eventually with this new horse so I'll have better insight in the future.
    09-18-2011, 09:50 PM
When I watched Paint world streamed live, I do think the peanut rolling has improved a lot. Heads aren't quite level, but certainly not down between their knees. It seems to be getting better, slowly.

I'm also noticing the four beat lope drawing out as well. The horses are starting to really move out more, and actually move in a true three beat lope. No more tender footed looking strides either.

Canting at the rail is still there, but not as common to everyone.

It's getting better, but not all that quickly. Somethings better than nothing though I suppose.
    09-21-2011, 05:59 PM
I agree with DejaVu. The needle has moved but not all the way to where it needs to be. Canted loping has been a big topic and I think it will be more scrutinized at shows in the next couple of years.
    11-01-2011, 09:36 PM
I don't think it's improved...go to Dreamhorse and "shop" for horses. You'd be surprised what you see in videos of horses that are 10K or higher...they don't trot square and they are certainly not using their hindquarters.

My problem is that the trickle of improvement is too slow to hit open shows...I wrote a letter to AQHA to vent my frustration. The letter I received in return was basically a non answer telling me it had improved, and that I should by such and such a judging video so I can see for myself. *eye roll*

Hunters are shown downhill on a drape, and wp horses are sure broke, but can't move worth a crap. Oh, and I love how whenever the judge doesn't look, the horse (who didn't even show an obvious mistake) gets its faced jerked. Makes me want to hit the trails instead of sitting around watching that. :-/
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