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    08-15-2011, 01:01 PM
  #1
Foal
Help with "WHOA"

I have a 10 year old WP mare she was well broke at a walk and jog. No problems there. Once I ask her to canter/lope there's almost no stopping her...literally. I ride her in a snaffle and she started throwing her nose up to avoid the bit so I put draw reins on her and now she just leans on the bit. I tried a curb so I had some leverage and she's back to throwing her head up. I've tried the stop and back and it's helped to slow the canter down but I still have a fight on my hands every time I ask her to stop so it's more like canter-play tug of war half way around the ring-back and do it all over again. If it helps she did NOT do this for the first month or two I had her she took off with me once on a trail ride and I think "figured out" that putting her nose in the air she could avoid me. And yes...I've had her teeth checked. Thanks everyone.
     
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    08-15-2011, 01:06 PM
  #2
Super Moderator
The stop and back is really helpful because it should have her anticipating the whoa. Does she stop from the jog and walk no issues? It sounds like she just needs to be reschooled. I am also wondering how she was trained to stop? Have you tried sitting deep in the seat and pressing your heels to her rather then pulling on the rein? I'm curious, would that speed her up or stop her?
     
    08-15-2011, 01:17 PM
  #3
Foal
From a walk and jog she stops fine. She was origionally trained to spur stop. I have weaned her off of it at the walk/jog I just sit back collect my reins and tell her whoa no problems. At the canter not only does she not rein stop but I've had her long enough now that she's re-conditioned that leg now means go.
     
    08-15-2011, 01:48 PM
  #4
Super Moderator
I was actually thinking she sounded spur broke. Mine is spur broke although he will rein stop. It takes more pressure to do it that way and he throws his head up when I ask him. I'm curious to see the replies you recieve on this one. I would think you would need to go back to the basics for a while since you are not "reschooling" at this point, you are retraining...

Although you should be able to do it with your seat. Deepen your seat and sit back when you ask for the whoa.
     
    08-15-2011, 02:59 PM
  #5
mls
Trained
Head going up = hollowed out back = pressure on the hocks.

Few issues to check out. Teeth, poll, back and hocks.

Teeth - bit or teeth themselves

Poll - alignment or how does the bridle fit? Gap when you apply pressure or does it lay flat?

Back - saddle - etc

Hocks - sore? Does she roll back nicely over them when you ask her to?
     
    08-15-2011, 05:32 PM
  #6
Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by mls    
Head going up = hollowed out back = pressure on the hocks.

Few issues to check out. Teeth, poll, back and hocks.

Teeth - bit or teeth themselves

Poll - alignment or how does the bridle fit? Gap when you apply pressure or does it lay flat?

Back - saddle - etc

Hocks - sore? Does she roll back nicely over them when you ask her to?
All of this is good advice and should definitely be looked into, but you also will want to consider that a horse who was trained to spur stop wouldn't be used to the rein preasure and would potentially throw it's head as well.
     
    08-15-2011, 05:52 PM
  #7
Green Broke
Ya but she said the horse did not do it the first month or two also
     
    08-15-2011, 09:33 PM
  #8
Foal
I had someone tell me that she may have associated rein means stop at the walk jog but not the lope. I have never used spurs on her I just used heel and she made the connection at the walk/jog. At the lope it just makes her speed up.
     
    08-15-2011, 09:44 PM
  #9
Super Moderator
She sounds confused to me.
     
    08-15-2011, 10:50 PM
  #10
Foal
I think so too and she's getting frusturated. I tried to just take her on a nice relaxing trail ride today but she was just really pissy which is unlike her.
     

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