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    07-14-2010, 11:47 PM
  #41
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Yeah, alot of the WP horses I know also compete in HUS and even trail classes
     
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    11-18-2010, 10:50 PM
  #42
Foal
Okay People WP is simple. My horse is weight trained, spur trained, and goes off neck reining. About the lowest possible head set that is the way my horse holds is head. Often when riding him he tucks it into his knees because it is just comfortable for him. . . Idk why though. (haveing vet come and look at him soon) He is natruley that slow as he is out of WP bloodlines, its the way they are built. And it is untrue about the impulsion adn collection. I am often complimented on how involved my horses hindend is by AQHA top judges and trainers. Congress is not the largest AQHA show ever BTW, try the Worlds Select!!! And at congress we sit for hours (my barn buddies and me) and watch teh warmup ring mezmerized by teh trainers in there. This is coming from someone born and raised around QHs so my biggest pet-peeve is when people talk about the Quarter Horses, Paints, or appy whitout even thinking. . . I bet some of you show arabs and want that movement in our "poor" stock horses.



Hunter - Under - Saddle

Everything I have read so far is wrong. No hind end involvment???? AQHA HUS horses have huge strides with large hind end impulsion and collection. Go to Worlds and watch HUS I am amazed everytime and I fall in love with teh breed again. I am personally sicked with the Arabian form or HUS with their small strided trosts and almost still canters I feel sooo bad where as the QHs cover ground!!!

Sorry for Rambling I hate when people talk negative about the world I grew up in and will never leave. ALL AMERICAN QUARTER HORSES ALL THE WAY (with a dash of paint and appy and an occasional appendix{QHxTB})
     
    11-19-2010, 06:28 PM
  #43
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luv My Quarter Horse    
Okay People WP is simple. My horse is weight trained, spur trained, and goes off neck reining. About the lowest possible head set that is the way my horse holds is head. Often when riding him he tucks it into his knees because it is just comfortable for him. . . Idk why though. (haveing vet come and look at him soon) He is natruley that slow as he is out of WP bloodlines, its the way they are built. And it is untrue about the impulsion adn collection. I am often complimented on how involved my horses hindend is by AQHA top judges and trainers. Congress is not the largest AQHA show ever BTW, try the Worlds Select!!! And at congress we sit for hours (my barn buddies and me) and watch teh warmup ring mezmerized by teh trainers in there. This is coming from someone born and raised around QHs so my biggest pet-peeve is when people talk about the Quarter Horses, Paints, or appy whitout even thinking. . . I bet some of you show arabs and want that movement in our "poor" stock horses.


Hunter - Under - Saddle

Everything I have read so far is wrong. No hind end involvment???? AQHA HUS horses have huge strides with large hind end impulsion and collection. Go to Worlds and watch HUS I am amazed everytime and I fall in love with teh breed again. I am personally sicked with the Arabian form or HUS with their small strided trosts and almost still canters I feel sooo bad where as the QHs cover ground!!!

Sorry for Rambling I hate when people talk negative about the world I grew up in and will never leave. ALL AMERICAN QUARTER HORSES ALL THE WAY (with a dash of paint and appy and an occasional appendix{QHxTB})
oh gosh thankyou!!! You don't even know how long I've been trying to explain that to them. But they are relentless.
     
    11-19-2010, 08:20 PM
  #44
Showing
Yeah, not entirely sure where that whole thing came from. Just to remind myself, I went back and read through the entire thread again. Only 1 person even mentioned Arabs and that poster was talking about a WP trainer who just happened to be riding an Arab. I was asking about the training that they got, not what breed was better (cause frankly I don't care). Just because you got up in a snit from some other thread doesn't mean that I asked you to come and throw your tantrum in mine. It was all well and civil until you came here. So, what, you saw that one poster had an Arab in their avatar and automatically judged all of us as Arab riding stock horse haters? Did you even read the thread? Yep, my Dad has trained world champion WP horses in both the Appy and AQHA show world, and I have the experience of riding exactly 1 Arab in my whole life so......
     
    11-19-2010, 09:09 PM
  #45
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luv My Quarter Horse    
Okay People WP is simple. My horse is weight trained, spur trained, and goes off neck reining. About the lowest possible head set that is the way my horse holds is head. Often when riding him he tucks it into his knees because it is just comfortable for him. . . Idk why though. (haveing vet come and look at him soon) He is natruley that slow as he is out of WP bloodlines, its the way they are built. And it is untrue about the impulsion adn collection. I am often complimented on how involved my horses hindend is by AQHA top judges and trainers. Congress is not the largest AQHA show ever BTW, try the Worlds Select!!! And at congress we sit for hours (my barn buddies and me) and watch teh warmup ring mezmerized by teh trainers in there. This is coming from someone born and raised around QHs so my biggest pet-peeve is when people talk about the Quarter Horses, Paints, or appy whitout even thinking. . . I bet some of you show arabs and want that movement in our "poor" stock horses.



Hunter - Under - Saddle

Everything I have read so far is wrong. No hind end involvment???? AQHA HUS horses have huge strides with large hind end impulsion and collection. Go to Worlds and watch HUS I am amazed everytime and I fall in love with teh breed again. I am personally sicked with the Arabian form or HUS with their small strided trosts and almost still canters I feel sooo bad where as the QHs cover ground!!!

Sorry for Rambling I hate when people talk negative about the world I grew up in and will never leave. ALL AMERICAN QUARTER HORSES ALL THE WAY (with a dash of paint and appy and an occasional appendix{QHxTB})
I totally agree with you!
     
    11-19-2010, 09:11 PM
  #46
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by smrobs    
Yeah, not entirely sure where that whole thing came from. Just to remind myself, I went back and read through the entire thread again. Only 1 person even mentioned Arabs and that poster was talking about a WP trainer who just happened to be riding an Arab. I was asking about the training that they got, not what breed was better (cause frankly I don't care). Just because you got up in a snit from some other thread doesn't mean that I asked you to come and throw your tantrum in mine. It was all well and civil until you came here. So, what, you saw that one poster had an Arab in their avatar and automatically judged all of us as Arab riding stock horse haters? Did you even read the thread? Yep, my Dad has trained world champion WP horses in both the Appy and AQHA show world, and I have the experience of riding exactly 1 Arab in my whole life so......
not being rude, but out of curiosity, how old is your dad?
     
    11-19-2010, 09:19 PM
  #47
Showing
60. Are you going to ask me for a list of the horses he rode next? Cause I have that too.
     
    11-19-2010, 10:37 PM
  #48
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by smrobs    
60. Are you going to ask me for a list of the horses he rode next? Cause I have that too.
no, I wasnt, but id love to see it.
     
    11-19-2010, 10:41 PM
  #49
Showing
American Quest
Tumbleweed Devil
Devil Weed
Mighty Dialette
LeDandy Bar

Hm, that's about all I can think of off the top of my head, I would have to scour through 20 year old records to find any more. He quit showing WP when the peanut rollers came into style because he refused to make a horse move like that.
     
    11-19-2010, 11:34 PM
  #50
Started
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luv My Quarter Horse    

Hunter - Under - Saddle

Everything I have read so far is wrong. No hind end involvment???? AQHA HUS horses have huge strides with large hind end impulsion and collection. Go to Worlds and watch HUS I am amazed everytime and I fall in love with teh breed again. I am personally sicked with the Arabian form or HUS with their small strided trosts and almost still canters I feel sooo bad where as the QHs cover ground!!!
FYI arabians are built differently and have naturally shorter strides... that's not to say they have short strides at all. Some arabs feel like warmbloods. Still canters? Sure, we don't tear around the ring, but in order to have a well rounded, collected horse some speed is lost, yes.
     

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