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post #51 of 100 Old 11-20-2010, 01:37 AM
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American Quest
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Devil Weed
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Hm, that's about all I can think of off the top of my head, I would have to scour through 20 year old records to find any more. He quit showing WP when the peanut rollers came into style because he refused to make a horse move like that.
ehh well, never heard of them. Congrats to you dad though. Though I don't think the peanut rolling is unreasonable. But that's another story.

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post #52 of 100 Old 11-20-2010, 03:34 AM
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That appy, as sour as he is, is an example of what I would love to see in the WP ring. Unfortunately he seems to be a rarity.
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I've seen WP and HUS trainers do the "kick-yank" thing. With roweled spurs and a shanked bit. I know that's not the right way to do it, but I've seen plenty of people do it at shows, in front of God and everybody. The horses usually have their ears pinned and tails thrashing, too. I don't know why the judges let them get away with it.

I took HUS lessons for a short time at a huge show barn, and the horses were treated fairly, as far as I could see. I don't think they used inhumane methods, but I wasn't there long enough to really find out.

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ehh well, never heard of them. Congrats to you dad though. Though I don't think the peanut rolling is unreasonable. But that's another story.

Tumbleweed Devil Appaloosa
Devil Weed Appaloosa
Mighty Dialette Appaloosa
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/american+quest

Trying doing a little bit of research dearie. That's a big fat list of World Champions, which I'm pretty sure far outdoes anything you've accomplished. Try being less cynical of people who've actually "been there done that", and stop assuming that a kid MUST know better then an aged gentleman's who's a proven trainer of champions.

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Tumbleweed Devil Appaloosa
Devil Weed Appaloosa
Mighty Dialette Appaloosa
American Quest Appaloosa

Trying doing a little bit of research dearie. That's a big fat list of World Champions, which I'm pretty sure far outdoes anything you've accomplished. Try being less cynical of people who've actually "been there done that", and stop assuming that a kid MUST know better then an aged gentleman's who's a proven trainer of champions.
oh my god. I was trying not to start anything.
First off, 40 years ago was a looongggg time ago, styles have changed, and nowadays, a horse with that style wouldnt be placed. So yay, her dad was very accomlished, I admit, but that was a while ago. And btw-they are all appys.

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Tumbleweed Devil Appaloosa
Devil Weed Appaloosa
Mighty Dialette Appaloosa
American Quest Appaloosa

Trying doing a little bit of research dearie. That's a big fat list of World Champions, which I'm pretty sure far outdoes anything you've accomplished. Try being less cynical of people who've actually "been there done that", and stop assuming that a kid MUST know better then an aged gentleman's who's a proven trainer of champions.
oh and btw, the links just are showing blood lines...nothing special.

Im NOT saying though that her dad isnt accomplished, im just saying I've never heard of these horses.

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oh my god. I was trying not to start anything.
First off, 40 years ago was a looongggg time ago, styles have changed, and nowadays, a horse with that style wouldnt be placed. So yay, her dad was very accomlished, I admit, but that was a while ago. And btw-they are all appys.
True, but at least in my opinion, I wish the style of training that won 40 years ago would come back into the arena these days.
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oh and btw, the links just are showing blood lines...nothing special.

Im NOT saying though that her dad isnt accomplished, im just saying I've never heard of these horses.
Oh good grief. HOVER over the I with a circle around it and it TELLS you the accomplishments.

I'm sorry but you're not fooling anyone with your attitude of asking how old her dad is and what horses he's trained followed by the commentary of "never heard of them". I think the biggest thing I dislike about WP is half the people involved in it and their "holier than thou" attitude.

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Oh good grief. HOVER over the I with a circle around it and it TELLS you the accomplishments.

I'm sorry but you're not fooling anyone with your attitude of asking how old her dad is and what horses he's trained followed by the commentary of "never heard of them". I think the biggest thing I dislike about WP is half the people involved in it and their "holier than thou" attitude.
I honestly have no clue what you just said. And, so mabye you have delt with WP attitudists...but there are those in every discipline. Nothing new.

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At the top of the pedigree page, there is an 'i' that has a circle around it that you can put your mouse on and will show the information about the horse.

It seems rather humorous to me that you feel the need to try to minimize his accomplishments by saying that they were 40 years ago (which by the way, not quite so long ago). The fact that it was a long time ago doesn't mean that the competition was any less intense than it is now, nor the training any easier. How many world champions, or even national champions have you trained? He didn't just ride those horses, he was the trainer on every one of those.

What amazes me is that you folks who are so adamant about WP being the greatest thing since sliced bread are so quick to jump to the assumption that just because the rest of us choose not to ride WP horses because we think it's ugly and impractical, we absolutely cannot possibly know anything about the mechanics of how a horse moves, what is natural and what isn't, what training it takes to get a horse to move like that. We must all be backwater hicks that just want to be meanie doo-doo heads because we aren't in absolute awe of a crippled crab loping around an arena. Did you ever consider that we do know what goes into the training and riding of a WP horse and that's why we don't like it?

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