I wanted to add that if what the OP is seeing is at local open shows, I would not be surprised. Out here on the west coast open show judges stink. Most of them have been judging for 30+ years, have no card, and they've made no effort to keep current. I know why this is. Show managers can't afford carded judges, but this does a huuge disservice to those people looking to move up the showing food chain. Typically these people think that because they've done well while showing to uncarded judges, they'll do well at breed and/or rated shows...and they don't. It's a rude awakening for most. Frankly, I think it scares people away.
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