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post #1 of 5 Old 10-03-2013, 03:53 PM Thread Starter
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Just curious what others might do..

I have two horses, Diesel and Daisy
my dilemma is what to do with each....

Diesel is a nice slow, WP type. But, he went lame after an injury from barrel racing at a local playday. Before he went lame we showed and barrel raced him locally and at rodeos. He was easy to train but being his first year place 3rd and 4th all season which is pretty good considering. He could get faster over time I am sure but i just don't think he wants to do that I feel like he wants to just walk jog lope... we call him Cadillac sometimes because he sooo comfy
Hopefully when he gets better he will be sound enough to give lessons on and do showing. That is my ultimate goal with him.
I would just keep him but I'm afraid he will injure himself if I barrel race him again. So I have strict goals with him at this time.
but wont be able to start in saddle training for another 4 months due to the injury, which is "OK" since its winter but not desirable.








Daisy is my new mare shes naturally quicker and little but she needs work on stopping and also taking the turns better and I'm afraid she doesn't have the mind set for barrels because only half way through this summer she was getting hard to get into the arena and getting worked up. I don't want the type of barrel horse that gets crazy and out of control and after just two playdays. I showed her and she place pretty good considering it was her first time and I was actually very proud of her. she does have a nice low head and a slow WP jog when she is taught what to do. I think she would do fine showing locally with a little more training and correct muscle tone.













My town is pretty small so we only have about 3-4 playdays and 3-4 horse shows a year with in the 40 mile range so Id like to do all...
SHOULD I>>>>
TRAIN Daisy for both events and Diesel for just showing?
Train Daisy for Barrels and Diesel for Showing?
or Just train Daisy for showing and focus on that...

what would YOU do?

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post #2 of 5 Old 10-03-2013, 05:31 PM
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Retire both, and if you do anything with the mare, make sure you get hocks done first as she is really uncomfortable looking.

You would be better suited, if you want to barrel race? To find something better suited for it.

But the "getting crazy" after 2 times, could be because she is hurting too, and is anticipating that.
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post #3 of 5 Old 10-03-2013, 05:49 PM
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What sort of injury did Diesel have? What does your lameness vet say? Either a horse is sound, or they are not. So it doesn't make sense that he would be sound enough to show, but not sound enough to barrel race. He needs to be sound to show too, as that requires excellent collection. Plus, a judge would spot him if he's not sound. So if he doesn't regain soundness, he needs to be retired.

Granted you posted only one picture of your barrel racing on Diesel, but your position is anything but ideal. You're looking down, you're using your outside hand instead of inside hand to rein him around the barrel, and it appears like you are ready to smack him with the end of your reins before you've even fully completed the turn. Not saying any of that to be harsh, but that's what I see in the picture.

Did Diesel seem to enjoy barrels? Some horses like it and some don't.

So Daisey ..... doesn't stop ...... and doesn't turn....... yet you probably asked her for full speed at the 2 barrel races you took her to. Exactly what sort of barrel training have you put her through? How long did you train her on the pattern before competing on her? It really sounds like you pushed her too fast too soon, and she's very confused. Hence why she's "lashing out" and getting completely uncontrollable.

I agree that Daisy is standing rather "camped out" in the photos you posted. Have you had her checked by a vet or chiro? That can also contribute to a horse getting out of control on the barrel pattern, if she is in pain.

My favorite thing to do is barrel race. However, I like to go to the local showing events too. I like my barrel horses to be well-rounded individuals. They know precisely when it's time to turn-and-burn, and when it is time to be show pretty and calm.

At one of our local shows, I entered my horse Red in every single event. If my memory serves me correctly, we took 3rd place in Halter, 3rd place in Western Pleasure, 4th place in Reining, 2nd place in Competitive Trail, 2nd place in Pole Bending, 1st place in Ring Race (speed event), and narrowly missed placing in barrel racing. Local show, yes, but there were about 12 to 15 people in each event. Not too bad for his first year of showing/gaming, and being such a well-rounded individual. But I've been training him for barrels/poles for over a year, and working on general riding during that time too. He was brought along slow and correct, so he's got a sound mind for barrel racing.

One horse is not going to be a world champion in every event. But they may excel in one event, and do "okay" in others.

If you like to do all the events, then train your horse for all the events. That's what I do. But make sure you don't rush into the barrel racing, because it sounds like you are taking it too quickly with Daisey, and she's blowing up on you. Check out some barrel tips in the other forum:
Barrel Racing Exercises and Drills.






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post #4 of 5 Old 10-04-2013, 10:38 AM Thread Starter
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What sort of injury did Diesel have? What does your lameness vet say? Either a horse is sound, or they are not. So it doesn't make sense that he would be sound enough to show, but not sound enough to barrel race. He needs to be sound to show too, as that requires excellent collection. Plus, a judge would spot him if he's not sound. So if he doesn't regain soundness, he needs to be retired.

Granted you posted only one picture of your barrel racing on Diesel, but your position is anything but ideal. You're looking down, you're using your outside hand instead of inside hand to rein him around the barrel, and it appears like you are ready to smack him with the end of your reins before you've even fully completed the turn. Not saying any of that to be harsh, but that's what I see in the picture.

Did Diesel seem to enjoy barrels? Some horses like it and some don't.

So Daisey ..... doesn't stop ...... and doesn't turn....... yet you probably asked her for full speed at the 2 barrel races you took her to. Exactly what sort of barrel training have you put her through? How long did you train her on the pattern before competing on her? It really sounds like you pushed her too fast too soon, and she's very confused. Hence why she's "lashing out" and getting completely uncontrollable.

I agree that Daisy is standing rather "camped out" in the photos you posted. Have you had her checked by a vet or chiro? That can also contribute to a horse getting out of control on the barrel pattern, if she is in pain.

My favorite thing to do is barrel race. However, I like to go to the local showing events too. I like my barrel horses to be well-rounded individuals. They know precisely when it's time to turn-and-burn, and when it is time to be show pretty and calm.

At one of our local shows, I entered my horse Red in every single event. If my memory serves me correctly, we took 3rd place in Halter, 3rd place in Western Pleasure, 4th place in Reining, 2nd place in Competitive Trail, 2nd place in Pole Bending, 1st place in Ring Race (speed event), and narrowly missed placing in barrel racing. Local show, yes, but there were about 12 to 15 people in each event. Not too bad for his first year of showing/gaming, and being such a well-rounded individual. But I've been training him for barrels/poles for over a year, and working on general riding during that time too. He was brought along slow and correct, so he's got a sound mind for barrel racing.

One horse is not going to be a world champion in every event. But they may excel in one event, and do "okay" in others.

If you like to do all the events, then train your horse for all the events. That's what I do. But make sure you don't rush into the barrel racing, because it sounds like you are taking it too quickly with Daisey, and she's blowing up on you. Check out some barrel tips in the other forum:
Barrel Racing Exercises and Drills.






what a beauty!^ looks like he has a kind eye too!

The ground is REALLY hard (Imagine an arena that just hosted a barrel race and it rained over night now its dry, chunky and uneven) and she is standing a bit odd
Here is a normal stance for her.

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post #5 of 5 Old 10-05-2013, 11:49 AM
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So what sort of injury does Diesel have? What does your vet say about recovery?

Do you have any videos of Daisy running the pattern? How long have you been training her for barrels?

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