Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Olds Alberta Canada
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Don't know why it is so difficult for people to grasp that every discipline at upper end has gotten tougher, including western pl.
At open shows you can place and even win , with a horse that has all his gaits , knows his leads and is pretty steady, even if he has no self carriage, unable to rate speed without bit support
Quality of movement and degree of difficulty don't even come into play
The ability for a horse to move slow and correct ups the degree e of difficulity.
I also have seen this video, with the horse being just two at the start of the video
Sorry, but One Hot Krymsum is an excellent mover great self carriage, recognized by World level judges, and instead of pulling such a horse apart, esp if you own horse is unable to rate speed and self carriage, maybe try and educate yourself as to why horsemen very knowledgeable on correct good movement reward such ahorse
Yes, he is moving slow legged, flat kneed, which is desired, but he is also moving true. The jog is two beats the lope is three beat.
The correct footfall for a three beat lope- outside hind leg hitting the ground, inside hind and outside front leg hitting the ground at the same time, last and third beat-lead front leg hitting the ground
I;m not a one discipline 'pony' I used to show reiners and western riding horses, and even ran games and did working cow horse and cattle events.
I used to think there was not much to western pl-well maybe true at 4h and open type schooling shows, but once I got serious about western pleasure, I learned just how much natural ability they have, the quaility of movement and the amount of body control and training needed for ahorse to achieve this self carriage
My western pl horse can gallop across the pasture with the best of them. I also show her HUS and she has won against all breeds, inclusding TBs, Arabians Morgans, and other traditional English type horses, under a judge with a dressage background
The show ring is an exhibition of degree of difficulty and not what one does riding across the pasture or on atrail ride.
What purpose is a 30 ft sliding stop, or four spins?-The cow would be long gone
What it shows is level of ability and training. Western pl is no different.
At upper end all the horses know their leads, have good transititions, etc. What separates the great ones is the ability to do these gaits without bit support, moving slow but true. MUch easier to do things fast, esp at the lope.
I mean, I see barrel horses running with chain mouth pieces, spurred around the barrels-is that 'natural? Some even dread entering an arena, as it means pain, thus rear and need to be led in
Yup,western pl at one point earned the title peanut rollers, but then gymkana also earned the handle of the 'whip and spur class'
No discipline lives in a glass house
Unfortunately, western pleasure just happens to have an over abundence of ;bleacher judges'
Vets are speaking out about the harm the training method of Rollkur is causing in dressage horses
MUch rather see a relaxed western pl horse doing his job than a horse with his nose flexed back to his chest. I think there were some pics posted somewhere, where dressage horses being over flexed like this actually has purple tongues hanging out
Lets have some out cry of the bIG Lick in TW, achived through soring and pressure shoing. The horses achieve this exagerated big lick, because their front feet are so painful from soring, that they try and shift their weight onto their rear feet ,and snap those painful front legs as quick and high as possible off of the ground-now that is movement achieved through delibertly inflicting pain on the horse to achieve that action