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post #1 of 31 Old 02-20-2012, 03:07 PM Thread Starter
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Pleasure lope

My horse had western pleasure training a couple years ago but since then he had been doing hunters at his old home, but now that I have him I'm doing both English and a little western with him. I was riding him today and got him to do a really nice slow jog. If he starts out trotting too fast I can just squeeze the reins a little and he'll slow down a bunch and stay like that on a loose rein. But I can't get him to go slower at the canter really. Sometimes I can, and he'll be going a good speed, but most of the time it's really fast. He doesn't listen to my reins aids as much as he does at the jog. How can I slow him down at the canter? (I say canter because it's too fast still to be considered a western lope.)
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First off I realize in the pleasure world this probably isn't true but a lope and canter should be synonymous.

Anywho.

Ruling out pain (Some horses will go faster trying to get away from pain from saddle fit, teeth, the works) start him loping, lope for a few strides, then break him back down to a trot for a bit longer. Then lope a few strides, back down to a trot. This way he is automatically thinking "slow" when you get going "faster".

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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I sit really deep and either hum (which it seems many western trainers do to slow them) or quietly go shhhhhhhhhhh as I sit deep. THey eventually get the idea to slow, if you reinforce it with rein in the beginning. I personally like all my horses to be totally "adjustable" in their gaits. That is something I always try to do with them anyway.
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First off I realize in the pleasure world this probably isn't true but a lope and canter should be synonymous.

Anywho.

Ruling out pain (Some horses will go faster trying to get away from pain from saddle fit, teeth, the works) start him loping, lope for a few strides, then break him back down to a trot for a bit longer. Then lope a few strides, back down to a trot. This way he is automatically thinking "slow" when you get going "faster".
English riders typically use the word 'canter' and western riders use 'lope.' A canter is much faster compared to a western lope.
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English riders typically use the word 'canter' and western riders use 'lope.' A canter is much faster compared to a western lope.

I am aware of what each discipline uses (I ride both) and like I said, it's probably not true for the pleasure world, but if we all went by that logic all western riders would be "loping slow" but then what would be call it when we sped up that lope, like in reining? Would we then call it a "canter"? And a lot of HUS horses now have a "canter" that resembles western pleasure. So would that be a "lope", too?

Sorry, the point to that is that both terms should use either one for the same thing.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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I am aware of what each discipline uses (I ride both) and like I said, it's probably not true for the pleasure world, but if we all went by that logic all western riders would be "loping slow" but then what would be call it when we sped up that lope, like in reining? Would we then call it a "canter"? And a lot of HUS horses now have a "canter" that resembles western pleasure. So would that be a "lope", too?

Sorry, the point to that is that both terms should use either one for the same thing.
I also ride both english and western so I am aware of both terms...and in reining most people would call it a gallop?
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I also ride both english and western so I am aware of both terms...and in reining most people would call it a gallop?
I never have in my years of showing it, my trainers does not, and never once have I met anyone who has.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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I am aware of what each discipline uses (I ride both) and like I said, it's probably not true for the pleasure world, but if we all went by that logic all western riders would be "loping slow" but then what would be call it when we sped up that lope, like in reining? Would we then call it a "canter"? And a lot of HUS horses now have a "canter" that resembles western pleasure. So would that be a "lope", too?

Sorry, the point to that is that both terms should use either one for the same thing.
Also HUS horses wouldn't go as slow as what a real western lope is...maybe slower then a canter, but I don't think it would be slow enough
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But from your perspective, a slower canter would automatically be considered a lope?



Is that technically a lope or a canter?

I'm not trying to pick on you here, It's just a major pet peeve of mine when a lope is automatically dubbed a slow western canter....

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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But from your perspective, a slower canter would automatically be considered a lope?


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Is that technically a lope or a canter?

I'm not trying to pick on you here, It's just a major pet peeve of mine when a lope is automatically dubbed a slow western canter....
I would say a lope
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