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post #11 of 31 Old 02-20-2012, 11:00 PM
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But then wouldn't it no longer be a "western term"....?

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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post #12 of 31 Old 02-20-2012, 11:16 PM
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I ride Western and I define a canter as a very collected Lope, so restricting those terms to the two disciplines is unnecessary and making this argument very useless.
I know that people haven't heard of canter defined that way but that's how I go with it, and I'm not the only one form around here who thinks of it that way.
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post #13 of 31 Old 02-21-2012, 12:45 AM
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In my world, it's always been canter=lope and lope=canter
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post #14 of 31 Old 02-21-2012, 07:50 AM
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If your horse has western pleasure training he likely just needs to be reminded. In a couple of years they can get pretty rusty so start from scratch with him.
When you ask him to lope off does he accelerate (get faster and faster until he is more of an English Canter?) If so simply ask him to lope, sit nice and deep in the saddle, and if at stride 4 his lope is too fast stop him, relaxe him and ask him to lope off again until he gets too fast. The key is to make him realize that speeding up is going to equal a stop, and a restart which is very hard work for him.
As he gets better and he gets even a little rushed you can circle him back in a tight circle and that will slow him up. If it doesnt go back to the stop and restart until he gets it right again.
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post #16 of 31 Old 02-21-2012, 02:59 PM
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Lope = canter and vice versa.
I've said canter when I meant lope. I "lope" my reiner off, but she's technically "cantering"
Reiners never actually truly gallop. Most horses don't truly gallop that often.

OP like someone mentioned he probably just needs a refresher.
If he goes to fast, stop-back-roll back and go off the other way.
Do lots of lateral and bending exercises to get his body working the right way. Expect him to lope off slow, if he "canters" off then you may need to stop-back-roll back and continue.
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He may not be in good enuff shape to lope yet. It takes a lot for them to collect enough to go slow. Do some lateral exercises with him and keep reminding him of what you want.

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A canter is much faster compared to a western lope.
Ummmm, no.

A collected canter covers very little ground per stride compared to an extended canter.
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Ummmm, no.

A collected canter covers very little ground per stride compared to an extended canter.
Agree, and a lope covers even less ground. IMO, there's lope, canter, extended canter, hand gallop, and gallop.
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Agree, and a lope covers even less ground. IMO, there's lope, canter, extended canter, hand gallop, and gallop.
This is how I understand the gaits as well. I am also working to train my horse in WP and am taking lessons on a trained WP lesson horse. I can get a really nice, slow collected canter out of my gelding, but when I ride the lesson horse at a lope, the gait feels entirely different. The trainer says the lesson horse "shuffles" a bit, but I am still confused as to when I am getting a true lope. Maybe someone could describe how they count the beat of each?

In the canter I count - da-da-dum, da-da-dum, da-da-dum... rhythmic and steady at medium, fast and slow (don't know if this sounds right or not)

Lope- ????
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