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I would work on getting her flexing to either side. If she braces very badly undersaddle, you can start on the ground. Stand at her shoulder, with her in a halter, and ask her to bring her nose around. Hold until she brings it around even a tiny bit. Release immediately and let her stand a second. Just gradually ask for more and more each time. (obviously not too much at once) Once she is willingly bringing her nose around on the ground in the halter, put her in a snaffle and do the same thing from the ground. If she gapes her mouth, a cavesson can come in handy.
Then from there, get under saddle, and work on it under saddle. Keep the exersizes light and POSITIVE. It sounds like someone was focused more on getting her head down and not on collection and correct training.
To help fix an over canted horse, you can urge them forward more. But an over canted horse became over canted because someone kept their hip in. Once you have her relaxed with the bridle, start on the legs. She needs to learn to respect the leg and take direction from it, rather than anticipate it. Here, it also sounds like someone abused the use of spurs on her.
In turns, reach up to your inside hip (once she is giving to the bit) and teach her to maintain balance, with her shoulder up, through a turn and continue driving forward at the same speed, WITHOUT anticipating a "dive and go" turn.
you must have posted this right as i was making my post cuz i never even saw it lol. in the vid it looks like you utilize your hands the same way i do so that makes me happy because i really had to work hard to fix my hands with my horse.
i will definitly work on the ground with flexing her head, i do that with my gelding as well, just was wondering if anyone had any other excersises. she is a very finicky horse. shes definitly going to keep me busy, she has some type of issue from the moment you tie her up to the moment you get off her.one things it doesn't seem like she does though gape her mouth.
with my gelding i can lightly one hand his head back into position with her it seems like someone has done the see saw thing becasue if i lift and drive she gets mad because of my leg but if i just lift she does nothing and as an experiment i did the back and forth with 2 hands and she dropped her head with no issues. i have only ridden her a few times so i am still getting to know her.
ya, i am wondering if becasue of her not accepting leg if someone has stayed in her mouth more for what ever reason and thats where she's getting issues with having a hard mouth? she was put out at pasture most of the summer then they decided the one daughter wanted to take her to a show and never really rode her much before hand so when she got her in the ring she didn't behave very well obviously and one of her things was the girl had spurs on and anytime she felt the spur she tried to buck so i made her take the spur off and she was a bit better but the mare is a lot of horse and the girl isn't that experienced so she was pretty angry and i'm wondering if she just started using too much hand because of the leg resistance.
with the turns, i know when i ride reiners i lift with my inside rein and push with my outside leg in order to lift the inside shoulder in corners...is this what you mean?
WP horses shouldn't be stiff.. And it's normal for the horses to bring their hind in to the center at the lope. This allows them to really use their hind in correctly, and not sling their head up and down and lean on the forehand. However, the horse shouldn't be that grumpy. It might be your cues. I find WP training way more complicated English, etc. You might just have to ask for some instruction, and see how that goes.
i guess it could be my cues but i really don't think so, she is the same with anyone who rides her. i didn't really think that WP was that complicated, but i never competed in WP. I've done reining, English pleasure, H/J and the closest thing to WP is a combo class where you have to switch from EP to WP but there really isn't many ppl in my area that teach WP and i really don't know if i want to pay for lessons on this horse, i'm just riding her for a friend because she doesn't get any excersise but i like to fix problems with horses and she has so many so was wanting some suggestions. thank you. you saidit's normal for them to bring their hip in at the canter, how much is normal? she really brings her hip in a lot.