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    05-04-2011, 10:29 PM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by misskingraven    
Well, I am new to western pleasure, and I was thinking of doing some small shows later on in the year so I have a couple of questions!
1) Do the WP horses in small classes have to do the 'peanut roller' thing they do it high up classes? I am not sure if that is the right word for it too :O
2) What if your horse does not neck rein, can you do it 2 handed? (I am teaching my horse how to neck rein right now)
3) Do I need super nice saddles with the silver on them for starting out, or will my roping saddle work?
4) How low does the horses head have to be?
5) Are there special bits involved in the small horse shows?

Keep in mind that this is really low level stuff, not anything fancy and high up there
*only read up to this post but yes please no bashing WP horses lol!!*
Anyways replying to this post: Welcome to the club! Lol I'm new to western pleasure and shows altogether too :) Just started in September :) Anyways from what I can gather is that I do NOT know what the peanut roller is... I've never been asked to do it anyways, but I just do the local stuff.
2)you can use two hands if your horse is under the age of 6 and you have the right bit. But I know my horse didn't really know how to neck rein either and she's 24 lol!
3)I don't use a super fancy saddle at all. There wasn't any silver on it or any type of bling, it's just kinda a casual 'barn saddle' I call it :p
4) I don't think it's a matter of how low the head is I think it's more how relaxed the horse is. And also when you're doing pleasure you have to smile and act as if your horse is the best in the world btw! I hate that part :p
5) yep you have to have the right bit. I don't know much about that stuff (I just went up to my lease's owner and said "Can I use this bit?" and she said "yeah that's fine" lol! She tried to explain it to me but either I don't get it or I really wasn't listening :p) so I'm not one to ask, but I use a basic curb bit. Hope that helps :)
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    05-22-2011, 10:31 PM
WP horses are bashed by a lot of people. I used to think WP looked pretty easy. I had a reiner, so going around the ring on the rail & doing a walk, jog, walk, lope, reverse & do it all again looked like a piece of cake.
Welllll, sure, you can go around the ring and it can all be easy, but doing it well, on a nicely trained horse is not nearly as simple as it looks.
Now that I have a WP prospect, I know the hard work that goes into making those rides look so effortless. I think what really caused a lot of the bashing was the peanut rolling, 4 beating and incorrectly used spur stops. I don't use a spur stop, but have seen it done well and have seen it done very, very badly.
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    05-23-2011, 05:20 AM
Watching WP competition is like watching Paint Dry!

Price the billy Cook and cirle y saddles (i don't want to do the math here)

Look at the primped up princesses who hops on the horse at show immediately after the trainer jumps off, perform jump off, miss patterns get the wrong lead, wipe out other riders...... Place due to who they are. That's mostly the 4-H shows.

Local shows are a bit more fair.

I can go on about some of the barbaric training practices i've seen... those people are either lazy or ignorant or just don't care.

I do know this spend time using what Dorrance taught you can get a super slow lope with nose dragging ground through less stressful/painful

They need to re-look the rules, Under 6" curb bit.... please, if you can get the same movement without a bridle or a simple neck rope it should be bonus points, my horses the turn, speed, and lead are all done with where my spur touches their side. I don't do the spur stop I do seat position for the stop.

By the time you get to world class WP that horse is on auto pilot, no need to pull anything to get them to change from walk to trot to canter, the turn (see foot comments)

If you want to teach neck reigning invest in tail hair mecate or a nice martingale... another method we used to do is cross the reigns so when you lay over the side you want to turn it pulls the bit that direction. If you opt for the tail hair mecate ($$$$) the prickly hairs cause a reaction to move off the pressure.

And Ban Brain Chains in 2011
    05-23-2011, 02:30 PM
Green Broke
What are brain chains?
    05-23-2011, 02:53 PM
Its like a stud chain but a bit more severe, its a halter with cables that puts a lot of un-warranted pressure on their heads. Looks like a mid-evil torture device.

Some people use it as a replacement for time invested into making their horses behave
    05-23-2011, 02:59 PM
I've never seen a "brain chain" used other than in timed events such as barrels & roping.
Ledge, is this the same thing as you are talking about? When is it used? While under saddle or in hand?
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    05-23-2011, 03:10 PM
Its used under hand sorry, i'm not sure of the Official name i've always heard them called brain chains
    05-23-2011, 04:14 PM
Green Broke

Is it like these?
    05-23-2011, 04:26 PM
I suspect it is something more like this.
Cable Head Setter / Training Equipment
    05-23-2011, 04:44 PM
Ray MacDonald, that's a mini or Arab show halter, is it not?
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