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    12-10-2010, 08:19 PM
Western Saddle - English Girth

I rode English most of my life, but a few years ago I switched to Western and like it much better. The only thing that I do not like is the cinch. I like the English girth better because of the elastic and the way it gives. I have found a few western cinches with elastic in them, but it is not quite the same. I am considering putting converters on my saddle so that I can ride Western, but use an English girth. Does anyone have any experience with this?
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    12-10-2010, 08:45 PM
Green Broke
Nope, why not just use a western one?
    12-11-2010, 12:17 AM
Sounds like you would be a perfect candidate for an Australian saddle. They have many different types, but one of them is an English girth with a western style saddle. I have one just like it, and they are very nice :)
    12-11-2010, 12:40 AM
I like the smart cinch from weaver. It works like an english girth with roller buckles. You just have to have a tie billet that has holes in it. If your western saddle doesn't already have one, they are pretty inexpensive and easy to change.
    12-11-2010, 12:47 AM
One very inexpensive option is to get an off billet that has some stretchy in it. Cashel (bless their hearts) makes one. It has the same stretchy material that english girths use. It's cheap and then you use a normal western cinch. The near side latigo is the normal kind. If you use a mohair western cinch, they have quite a bit of give in them that eases the breathing for the horse.

I much prefer the western or dressage girths because hunts seat styles require one to lift upward at an angle that I cannot apply as much strength as I need. Hard to get them tight enough, AND the buckles are right under your knee and you feel them through the saddle flap.
    12-11-2010, 01:24 AM
Originally Posted by Ray MacDonald    
Nope, why not just use a western one?
I think she mentioned why she isn't wanting to use a western one?

OP - The girths are made the way they are for a reason. Do you really want "give" with something that's supposed to be keeping your saddle on?
    12-11-2010, 01:53 AM
Why would you want an elastic girth? Just don't overtighten you cinch and you shouldn't have a problem. I like mohair cinches if I'm not going to be riding where they can pick up a lot of mud and debry.
    12-11-2010, 09:15 AM
Somewhere I saw a converter type thing for just this purpose. Have no idea where......I am also an English convert, but I don't have an issue with the cinches like the Weaver with buckles...it is pretty close to doing up an english, without the elastic. I use the one with the air pockets....gives a bitof a cushion, and I guess I see that as the extra little "give" I would get with the elastic on the english girth.
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    12-11-2010, 10:29 AM
Thank you to everyone for all the advice.

A new saddle is not an option, but I do think that it is very smart marketing that the Australian saddle gives you the choice. When I talk about give, I don't mean enough that my saddle can fall off, it was more about the horses comfort, which in my mind, relates to more freedom of movement. I had not seen the Cashel off billet and will definitely be looking into that. I also like the Weaver Air Flex. Maybe the combination of the two will give me what I am looking for. If only the Air Flex had the Smart Cinch technology, life would be good!!
    12-11-2010, 02:07 PM
The problem I see with the Smart cinch is that the roller gives you too much mechanical advantage and makes it easy to overtighten the cinch.

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