See that is where I disagree. NONE of the horses shown in that video are either collected or driving from the rear.
The horse is in fact pulling itself along and the rear is doing what it needs to to keep pace. They are all on the forehand.
I posted this on another thread and to achieve the beginnings of collection all horses in all disciplines must satisfy the following.....................
An even loading on all four legs and where the horse has given its body up to the riders full commands (in other words moves easily throughout).
With what was being posted on that other thread I was going to post a thread on understanding collection but given the fact that people will never do searches and still ask I figured it was a waste of time so I suggest people just google it on the net.
Great post Spyder!
Fabulous. So I'm pretty slow to get agitated, but I feel like the point of you starting this thread is to bash the discipline. You don't like the event. Fine. Leave it alone. You don't like western tack because of all the leather. Fine. Go back to doing X/C and leave us know nothing, 4 beating, leg dragging pleasure riders alone. You said you'd never convert so why are you bothering if you have already obviously formed an opinion? To be confrontational.
Ya, I'll get flamed for this but in my highly hormonal 8-month-preggo-and-bitchy state, I honestly could care less. I can't wait to have this baby so I can climb back on one of those unbalanced, abused, peanut rollers and go and 4 beat around the arena until can find a X/C or dressage rider to teach me better.
Talk about jumping to conclusions? I don't see ANYWHERE where Stormy was stating that she wanted this thread to be about bashing the "abused peanut rolling, miserable looking WP horses" anywhere?
As clearly stated in the OP - this thread is about wanting to better understand the theory behind the world of WP riding and how they get their horses to move.
So that people who read this, and who do not have anything to do with WP or ever will - can better understand the theories behind this style of riding as well. Remember, there are far more who lurk than who post, and I am quite sure that many of them who are not involved in WP, probobly think the same thing.
So, instead of getting all pissed off and going off on a tizzy - why not educate instead of getting all sarcastic and flame? It's not her fault that she doesn't know or understand this "world" of riding - nor is it anyone elses fault for not understanding. I applaud anyone who has the courage to step forward and ask questions, instead of going around in their daily lives believing something that was told to them by someone who isn't involved in the sport.
Would you rather they go around believing that WP peanut rolling is abusive? Or would you prefer for them to know the reasonings behind it, so that the next time someone bashes WP, they can say "well, actually...."
Would you rather they be educated by someone who doesn't do the sport? Or by someone who does?