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post #101 of 148 Old 09-28-2012, 03:49 PM
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So now lets all be good equestrians and enjoy our horses and each others opinions.
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post #102 of 148 Old 09-28-2012, 04:04 PM
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The thing I don't understand with all of this is how Jessa had time to go to every single WP horse and rider to ask if they're happy with their discipline or choice of showing.. Girl, you're good.

On a serious note.. How are you so positive they are just miserable with their job? Those horses are bred for that, and those traits (gaits, low head set, and such) are bred into those horses. It's a natural thing for them, training just emphasizes that and gets the desired outcome with the horse and rider. I've been in plenty of WP training situations. My aunt and uncle were WP, EP, showmanship, hunt seat, reining and halter trainers before they divorced a few years ago. I had to ride anywhere from 5-10 WP horses a day every summer working for them and not one of those horses hated their job. Half of the horses at their barn were worth more than I make in a year and were treated like royalty.

I haven't read this whole thread but I can imagine the bashing and such that has gone on against all WP horses, trainers, owners - whatever. Unless you have that first hand experience in a situation with WP horses, trainers, owners - whatever, you have not a single clue as to what you are ASSUMING and ranting about. Go spend a few days in a WP situation or barn, get into it, take a few lessons..Something for you to even make a halfass educated response to this thread.
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post #103 of 148 Old 09-28-2012, 04:50 PM
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I love WP personally and hope to be able to train my soon to be filly Bria in it. However I merely was critiquing a video of a "Western Pleasure" trained horse, who when loping through a turn, his back legs crow hopped to the side which caused him to move in a diagnal cut across the corner:
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post #104 of 148 Old 09-28-2012, 05:41 PM
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Yeah, that guy embodies all that is wrong with WP.

I'd thought I'd throw in some pictures from a while back of my old gelding.

His favorite head position! But, it was peanut-rolling and hollowed out his back and restricted his movement, no matter how "natural" it was for him.


What I had to "bring him up to" :P


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post #105 of 148 Old 09-28-2012, 05:51 PM
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ok so it isn't wp western pleasure it in fact it's called western "proffesionalism"
I stand corrected.
Hmmm...major sarcasm? Such snarkiness is unbecoming.

So, pray tell....what do you do with YOUR horse?
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post #106 of 148 Old 09-28-2012, 05:57 PM
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Now this ^ is WP at it's best for a 2 YO! So sad this brilliant WP stud has passed on. The rider has him hooked, she doesn't touch his face once, she has him on cruise control by using her legs and seat.
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post #107 of 148 Old 09-28-2012, 05:58 PM
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Darn....you have to go to youtube to watch it.
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post #108 of 148 Old 09-28-2012, 05:59 PM
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I love WP personally and hope to be able to train my soon to be filly Bria in it. However I merely was critiquing a video of a "Western Pleasure" trained horse, who when loping through a turn, his back legs crow hopped to the side which caused him to move in a diagnal cut across the corner:
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Yea, that is a pretty darn bad example. But I'll tell you this....if he showed the horse like this at an APHA show, he would get the gate.
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post #109 of 148 Old 09-30-2012, 09:55 AM
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WP means Western Pleasure right? Then where is the pleasure if both the horse and rider look like neither are having any fun and have just given up.
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post #110 of 148 Old 09-30-2012, 10:52 AM
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I'm not trying to trash any discipline just trying to see if we can get pleasure for both horse and ridder back in the term Western Pleasure.
Well if your trying to find out what is the pleasure, how about you stop being so snarky and immature?

What isn't the pleasure of Western Pleasure? Your going at a slow, relaxed pace. Your not fighting to hold your horse back, you sit up tall and have fun.

Doing a nice jog or a lope is very pleasurable, the horse is relaxed. The person riding is having a blast.


This is a relaxed horse, going nice and slow. This horse truly exemplifies the true western pleasure horse. All his gaits are correct, he's very floaty and smooth. How wouldn't this be a pleasure? They both look relaxed and enjoying it.

Because this horse definitely looks like a pleasure to ride...

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