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post #41 of 148 Old 07-01-2012, 08:43 PM
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(a) A good pleasure horse has a free-flowing stride of reasonable length in keeping with his conformation. He should cover a reasonable amount of ground with little effort. Ideally, he should have a balanced, flowing motion, while exhibiting correct gaits that are of the proper cadence. The quality of the movement and the consistency of the gaits is a major consideration. He should carry his head and neck in a relaxed, natural position, with his poll level with or slightly above the level of the withers. He should not carry his head behind the vertical, giving the appearance of intimidation, or be excessively nosed out, giving a resistant appearance. His head should be level with his nose slightly in front of the vertical, having a bright expression with his ears alert. He should be shown on a reasonably loose rein, but with light contact and control. He should be responsive, yet smooth, in transitions when called for. When asked to extend, he should move out with the same flowing motion. Maximum credit should be given to the flowing, balanced and willing horse that gives the appearance of being fit and a pleasure to ride.

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Free-flowing stride? Reasonable length in keeping with his conformation? Yikes! Light contact with the reins? Lol

WP has come a long way from all that, baby.

And as far as it all being bred into them... I will admit that I take supreme pleasure in getting WP-bred horses and letting them move like horses.

I heard that originally the WP horse was supposed to be a horse that a cowboy could ride all day. Get a lot done on. In my experience, when I used to let WP riders come to my place to do some riding in a natural ranch setting, all their notions of how their horses should move were changed. If they wanted to keep up with anything else on the place.
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post #42 of 148 Old 07-01-2012, 09:35 PM
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I personally like to show in Western pleasure, but I refuse to force my pony to have extreme gaits. I love a relaxed, natural-looking, correct WP gaits.
I LOVE to ride a pleasure-type trot. The horse in that video's trot looked so nice to ride! Maybe alittle extreme, but still, you have to admit it looked nice to ride!!
One thing I really despise is the stereotypical WP lope like the horse in the video. I like a more natural-looking lope. Maybe less like a lame horse-looking and more like a healthy horse-looking?
I'll have to agree with the OP on that one, It's definitely extremely slow and unnatural. *cringe*
I also really dislike to see peanut rollers. Again, the horse in the video's head was unnaturally low-hanging to me. A horse who's relaxed will naturally hang their head fairly level or close to level with their withers (if that's what the conformation allows). I just don't see the point in the extra training and gadgets to force them to hang their head low.

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post #43 of 148 Old 07-01-2012, 09:56 PM
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I don't compete, we are strictly pleasure but slurp, bless her heart, looked just like that mare at the end of our first big trail ride of the summer just say'n
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post #44 of 148 Old 07-02-2012, 06:35 AM
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Western Pleasure threads are getting old... how many times can you say the same things over and over and over...

You either like it, or you don't.
It ain't that hard.
And guess what; if you don't like it, you don't have to watch it! Or show in it! Or post threads about it!
I don't go posting in the Barrel racing, Dressage, or Walking horse threads. Do I like them? No... not really... but I still watch them from time to time! Good horse work is good horse work regardless of the discipline or style. They aren't my cup of tea to show, but hey, that's fine. But I don't go around crying abuse either.
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post #45 of 148 Old 07-02-2012, 07:20 AM
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Well if you don't like people not liking what you like, you can also not contribute to threads that dislike your likings.
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post #46 of 148 Old 07-02-2012, 04:41 PM
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^ doesn't make much sense...LOL
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post #47 of 148 Old 07-02-2012, 07:42 PM
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Well if you don't like people not liking what you like, you can also not contribute to threads that dislike your likings.
I don't care if you don't like it.

But, you could just not watch it... you don't have to post threads about how much you don't like it, and how horrible it looks.
And you don't have to scream abuse just because you don't like it.

If you really despise it that much you could; be an adult, quietly use the search function, and read 100 more threads about this very topic.

And that is all I'm going to contribute to this thread... hopefully now it just dies like the rest of the WP threads of this nature.
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In my opinion, I actually quite liked the horse in the first video. He was foreward and had nice drive. That is what I would want in my 2 yr old. You could tell it just came naturally and its beautiful to watch... you could say it was pleasurable.
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post #49 of 148 Old 07-03-2012, 02:34 AM
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Well if you don't like people not liking what you like, you can also not contribute to threads that dislike your likings.

I'd like to say that I "like" this, but am not sure what I would be liking. Like, wow, too many likes.
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post #50 of 148 Old 07-03-2012, 04:43 AM
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I don't care if you don't like it.

But, you could just not watch it... you don't have to post threads about how much you don't like it, and how horrible it looks.
And you don't have to scream abuse just because you don't like it.

If you really despise it that much you could; be an adult, quietly use the search function, and read 100 more threads about this very topic.

And that is all I'm going to contribute to this thread... hopefully now it just dies like the rest of the WP threads of this nature.
You're barking at the wrong tree, mate. I have not started any thread about it. You might as well hope the whole forum dies, because most of it contains threads about certain horse related habits, trends or specifics, on which people have - gasp! - DIFFERENT opinions.

It my opinion, it is at least not as un-natural and stressful as certain types of classic dressage. It still looks ridiculous to me if it reaches a certain degree. And to many other non-WP people or to the vast majority of non horse people. It's a genuine sincere reaction of "wtf is that?"
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