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post #81 of 148 Old 09-28-2012, 12:50 PM
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To answer your question, the actually purpose for that particular horses movement, is to pin in a western pleasure class. There is no "working" reason for it if that's what you mean. It's a pleasure horse trained to pleasure ride. It's not a ranch horse. Ranch horses (that are trained to show and work), however can ride just like that one.

But... if you were take a working ranch horse that was trained to work a ranch and not to ride in a ring, then it probably wouldn't give you a pretty picture like that.

Truthfully though, the hunt horses that race around the ring jumping really high fences... what is the purpose behind that?

The dressage horses that do all the fancy footwork, what is the purpose behind that?

You can pick apart any show breed because the truth is, when you enter the show arena, the "purpose" is just that, show.

That's my 2 cents anyway...
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WP means Western Pleasure right? Then where is the pleasure if both the horse and rider look like neither are having any fun and have just given up.
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My daughter shows both English and Western and I have to admit WP is our least favorite. Besides it being very slow (and Acey just not being a pure WP horse), neither the child nor the horse like the bit (curb) or the split reins (Kitten prefers two hands). Kitten can never seem to get Acey's head low enough or her walk/jog slow enough. Kitten only rides it to be sure she can for shows where high point requires classes in both disciplines.

I've seen some beautiful WP movers and think that it's quite amazing when done right...it's just not our discipline.
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I wonder where ever did the wp judges get the idea the a western ridden horse should move so slow. I guess they never watched any westerns.
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I wonder where ever did the wp judges get the idea the a western ridden horse should move so slow. I guess they never watched any westerns.
Oh....western movies, like the ones when the cowboys are yanking the horses around with a tight rein, a curb bit and the horse's mouth is wide open? Yea, now that's a real nice example....
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There were a lot of good horsemen in some of those old westerns you just have to watch for them. Maybe you missed some like Gene Autry, Roy Rogers, James Arness, John Wayne, and those are the tip of the good horsemen.
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WP means Western Pleasure right? Then where is the pleasure if both the horse and rider look like neither are having any fun and have just given up.
petty much?

Have you ever actually talked to a WP rider???

If you don't like the discipline then don't watch it...but don't sit there and trash it and the people who ride WP just because YOU don't like it.
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There were a lot of good horsemen in some of those old westerns you just have to watch for them. Maybe you missed some like Gene Autry, Roy Rogers, James Arness, John Wayne, and those are the tip of the good horsemen.
What???? Have you EVER actually watched them ride?????? ALL HAND WITH A BIG BIT...hauling on those poor horses mouths. If this is your idea of correct riding, you have a lot to learn.
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I'm not trying to trash any discipline just trying to see if we can get pleasure for both horse and ridder back in the term Western Pleasure.
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