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  • Preparing manes and tails for western pleasure
  • Preparing the tail of western pleasure horse

 
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    08-31-2011, 09:13 PM
  #11
Foal
Ummm, actually, I'm not sure about that. I think maybe, usually a lot WP horses have long manes and tails. You might want to look into that, because I really don't have a clue!
     
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    08-31-2011, 09:30 PM
  #12
Foal
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Originally Posted by WesternSpice    
Ummm, actually, I'm not sure about that. I think maybe, usually a lot WP horses have long manes and tails. You might want to look into that, because I really don't have a clue!
Haha, okay.
     
    08-31-2011, 09:39 PM
  #13
Weanling
If you are just doing little shows like club shows and such it doesnt really matter if they have a nice flowy tail but if you wanted to do bigger shows they like to see a nice big tail
     
    09-01-2011, 08:59 AM
  #14
Foal
Okay. I plan on only showing with 4H and WSCA, but the WSCA shows are huge so I probably would need hair extentions on him.
     
    09-01-2011, 11:39 AM
  #15
Super Moderator
In order to achieve a true headset you'll need to ensure that you have true collection. Getting your horse to lower his head won't happen overnight. What you'll have to do is get him to give to the bit so that when you lift your reins and he feels the preasure, he'll drop.

As for "extensions", that's up to you. For the mane, only the reiners in QH have long manes. You'll just want to band to show (assuming you are using the paint in your avatar). You can go with a tail extension if you want to but you don't have to.
     
    09-01-2011, 04:48 PM
  #16
Foal
WSCA shows can get pretty big depending on the area. I would say yes to a fake tail. Though define what you mean by "no tail". Did it get chewed off? Is it short (like hock length)? Or SHORT (like tail bone length)? You won't want to attach a fake tail if it's boarderline tail bone length. The key to a fake tail is to get it to blend. If it's hock length or longer, you're good. For western pleasure, the mane should be short and banded. I keep my horses mane about 2 1/2 inches long. If it's a thick mane, go towards 3 inches; if it's really thin, go around 2 inches. The only horses in a western pleasure class that have long manes are those with a truely beautiful mane - silky smooth (as in hair I would be jealous of) and thick. If it gets frizzy, chop it off.

As far as a headset, listen to farmpony. You have to get him to give to the bit first. A soft mouth is key or you'll always fight with him. Do a lot of bending and getting his shoulders moving off of pressure (leg and rein).
     
    09-04-2011, 10:06 AM
  #17
Foal
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Originally Posted by rc82    
WSCA shows can get pretty big depending on the area. I would say yes to a fake tail. Though define what you mean by "no tail". Did it get chewed off? Is it short (like hock length)? Or SHORT (like tail bone length)? You won't want to attach a fake tail if it's boarderline tail bone length. The key to a fake tail is to get it to blend. If it's hock length or longer, you're good. For western pleasure, the mane should be short and banded. I keep my horses mane about 2 1/2 inches long. If it's a thick mane, go towards 3 inches; if it's really thin, go around 2 inches. The only horses in a western pleasure class that have long manes are those with a truely beautiful mane - silky smooth (as in hair I would be jealous of) and thick. If it gets frizzy, chop it off.

As far as a headset, listen to farmpony. You have to get him to give to the bit first. A soft mouth is key or you'll always fight with him. Do a lot of bending and getting his shoulders moving off of pressure (leg and rein).
Well he is a curly, so they normally shed their tail in the summer, so his tail is about a foot and a half long. Toby's tail is tail bone length with 3 inches of actual tail hair. His tail is below. :)
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    09-05-2011, 03:16 PM
  #18
Weanling
Custom Horse Tails, Equine show horse tail enhancers, custom horsehair tails, horse hair Custom Tails

^That website makes really nice customs for a good price. They also make the tails made for horses with no tail hair to attach a regular tail extention to. I don't fully understand it, but it attaches onto the hairs and tailbone somehow. They're called rendered tail I think.

4-H level, don't worry about a tail, but anything bigger, a fake tail would probably be good.

What Farmpony said. They have to know how to give to the bit, and relax into the bridle. It will take some time, but short and sweet sessions. It's best to start from the ground, and work up into the saddle for headset.
     
    09-05-2011, 09:27 PM
  #19
Foal
Okay, I lunged him with a weird thing that brings his head down. He did great! Thanks for all your help!
     
    09-05-2011, 10:11 PM
  #20
Weanling
Some shows do not allow mane and/or tail extensions so check with whatever show you are going to. Also for western pleasure most people use curb bits, and for 4-H most states have a rule that says horses over 6 must use a curb bit(with shanks). I know that for Michigan 4-H you can't use tail, mane or forelock extensions, and for western horses over 6 must use a standard curb bit with shanks and a smooth mouthpiece, it can be inlaid or latex wrapped but must be smooth(I show western, english, gymkhana, and driving in Michigan 4-h)
     

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