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post #11 of 28 Old 09-21-2011, 10:38 AM
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Never have used draw reins...never would as they give your horse a false frame.

We don't use anything other than martingale occasionally but have found over the years the best way to achieve a level head set is transitions and plenty of work. If you can't get them to lower their head naturally without gimmicks they will likely never be able to maintain a nice level poll in the show pen.

Horses get wise to gimmicks and sooner or later as soon as you take them off they will go back to what you started with, so you accomplish nothing.
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post #12 of 28 Old 09-21-2011, 11:24 AM
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I've recently stopped using training devices... Hopeing the answer to this question is permanently... never...

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post #13 of 28 Old 09-29-2011, 06:45 PM
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I actually do use draw reins, and it really helped. Moreso me than my horse and I had no problems replicating without them what I had enforced with.

However, using them consistently IS a way out, I used them at the beginning to enforce my cues and took them off every other day to work without. I found them very helpful, but you shouldn't lean on them as a solution but the formula.

I was told to use them by a really good wp trainer and it has really helped me personally. I do see what people have against them though, as any training aid can be used incorrectly and become a crutch.

If you do use them make sure you work much more without them than with.
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post #14 of 28 Old 09-29-2011, 07:17 PM
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Short answer - almost never, well actually never.
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post #15 of 28 Old 11-20-2011, 08:26 AM
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I have just started using a training fork of sorts.. (running martingale without neck loop) and knots tied in ring leathers. Mostly to see wether it worked as didn't want to spend money if I didn't need to. I have found that in the walk and jog, though he had a naturally low neck set and frame, and could do it with reins at a super length, it helped when he would be rude, and instead of me lifting shoulders up and his head going up also, he instead went down. I used it for 4 days of training and 5th day didn't and his jog and walks were brilliant, low and when I lifted shoulders (probably a more correct term) his head went low. Which was the intended goal. Lope however, he has now been going lower, but once removed, he seems to get a bit quicker. Still perfecting our lope, but its OK. I like them, as it means I can do work over and over and over so it becomes habit, and when I take them away, its drilled into him. Personally im not big on gagets, but this one (training fork) is one that I certainly will keep in my trunk for emergencies. I won't use it all the time, but its one I know works and doesn't take much to get a correct response from. Where as draw reins I find are a quick aid to a bigger problem. Plus I find the fork helps so that my reins don't get to short and I can maintain some length in them.
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post #16 of 28 Old 11-20-2011, 08:44 AM
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We mix n match all the time. Rode in western bit and english saddle when searching for a suitable english bit for Shelby.



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post #17 of 28 Old 11-21-2011, 01:33 PM
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I somtimes ride english saddle and western bridle, just because I can't be bothered heaving the saddle out, or o'll do western saddle and hunter bridle. Or stick the pelham for hack on. Either way, he gets worked, which is great.
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post #18 of 28 Old 11-21-2011, 01:56 PM
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I don't use either very often. Often times all they do is mask another problem that your horse is having; they never really solve the issue. They can be good if used correctly, but often times aren't.
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post #19 of 28 Old 11-30-2011, 10:19 PM
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A few times when the horse was a 3 yr old, he's 11 now. So in the last 8 years, never, don't need it. It's a training tool, he learned what he needed & it gets put away. Was a training fork, draw reins I don't really like, doesn't even give the horse any opinion, a training fork just makes it easier for them to give at the poll, whereas the draw reins almost forces them. I have heard trainers use them to get a horse to realize & use those muscles with draw reins & once they understand, they take them off but I think the training fork is a better tool for that. JMHO.
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post #20 of 28 Old 12-20-2011, 12:14 PM
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In August and the first half of september, I rode in draw reins because I was getting ready for an AQHA show. HOWEVER I know how to use them properly so I did not get any negative effects afterwards.
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