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post #1 of 52 Old 06-29-2010, 01:50 PM Thread Starter
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3 vs 4 beat

After reading the western pleasure subforum, I became confused. Just what is the difference between the 3 beat canter and the 4 beat canter. Obviously the 3 beat should have three distinct footfalls, but what exactly is the 4 beat caner? Is it a hand gallop?

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post #2 of 52 Old 06-29-2010, 01:52 PM
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Its like a trope.
Its when the horse(its not always at the lope) tries to lope, but doesnt pick up their leading shoulder and doesnt take weight off the front end, so it looks like they are trotting in front and loping in back. Ill see if I can find a video of it. Its very ugly when you see it.

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Now you're talking about the 4 beat?

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yes. What I described was a 4 beat

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It's like they are cantering in the front and trotting in the back.

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After reading the western pleasure subforum, I became confused. Just what is the difference between the 3 beat canter and the 4 beat canter. Obviously the 3 beat should have three distinct footfalls, but what exactly is the 4 beat caner? Is it a hand gallop?
Hardly a hand gallop.


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post #7 of 52 Old 06-29-2010, 02:20 PM
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Spyder, what is that video showing? An example of a 3 beat or 4 beat canter? I too am very confused!

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Spyder, what is that video showing? An example of a 3 beat or 4 beat canter? I too am very confused!

The horse actually does both. At times the lope barely satisfies the 3 beat but then you will see the 4 beat creep in.

There will appear as if the horse goes lame for 4 or 5 steps intermittently.
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The "trope", "tra-canter", or the "cripple-canter" looks something like this:
Or this (watch closely on the third horse especially):

Often, the four-beat lope or canter is the result of forcing "collection", with the incorrect use of the hand, gadgets (like draw-reins, et cetera), or even lameness.
I rode a dressage warmblood that was over-ridden in draw reins, and she had a four-beat canter.


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post #10 of 52 Old 06-29-2010, 02:28 PM
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Hardly a hand gallop.


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just in my personal opinion, this horses didnt 4 beat at all. He had a very nice 3 beat lope. If you count it you can tell.

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