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  • Canter 4beat
  • Pleasure horse 4 beat lope

 
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    06-29-2010, 02:50 PM
  #1
Green Broke
3 vs 4 beat

After reading the western pleasure subforum, I became confused. Just what is the difference between the 3 beat canter and the 4 beat canter. Obviously the 3 beat should have three distinct footfalls, but what exactly is the 4 beat caner? Is it a hand gallop?
     
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    06-29-2010, 02:52 PM
  #2
Weanling
Its like a trope.
Its when the horse(its not always at the lope) tries to lope, but doesnt pick up their leading shoulder and doesnt take weight off the front end, so it looks like they are trotting in front and loping in back. Ill see if I can find a video of it. Its very ugly when you see it.
     
    06-29-2010, 02:54 PM
  #3
Green Broke
Now you're talking about the 4 beat?
     
    06-29-2010, 02:58 PM
  #4
Weanling
Yes. What I described was a 4 beat
     
    06-29-2010, 03:04 PM
  #5
Super Moderator
It's like they are cantering in the front and trotting in the back.
     
    06-29-2010, 03:06 PM
  #6
Banned
Quote:
Originally Posted by tempest    
After reading the western pleasure subforum, I became confused. Just what is the difference between the 3 beat canter and the 4 beat canter. Obviously the 3 beat should have three distinct footfalls, but what exactly is the 4 beat caner? Is it a hand gallop?
Hardly a hand gallop.


     
    06-29-2010, 03:20 PM
  #7
Green Broke
Spyder, what is that video showing? An example of a 3 beat or 4 beat canter? I too am very confused!
     
    06-29-2010, 03:24 PM
  #8
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Originally Posted by Jillyann    
Spyder, what is that video showing? An example of a 3 beat or 4 beat canter? I too am very confused!

The horse actually does both. At times the lope barely satisfies the 3 beat but then you will see the 4 beat creep in.

There will appear as if the horse goes lame for 4 or 5 steps intermittently.
     
    06-29-2010, 03:26 PM
  #9
Weanling
The "trope", "tra-canter", or the "cripple-canter" looks something like this:
Or this (watch closely on the third horse especially):

Often, the four-beat lope or canter is the result of forcing "collection", with the incorrect use of the hand, gadgets (like draw-reins, et cetera), or even lameness.
I rode a dressage warmblood that was over-ridden in draw reins, and she had a four-beat canter.


By the way, you have no idea how weird it is watching Western Pleasure while listening to Metal. Too weird.
     
    06-29-2010, 03:28 PM
  #10
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyder    
Hardly a hand gallop.


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just in my personal opinion, this horses didnt 4 beat at all. He had a very nice 3 beat lope. If you count it you can tell.
     

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