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    11-30-2011, 07:14 AM
  #11
Foal
Look Larry Trocha on YouTube, he's got some great videos on these sorts of topics. From my brief education in reining, no, you never back up into a spin, as others have said. The only time we did a lot of backing up was to work on the stop, so that we could sharpen it up and get the horse back on its hindquarters.
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    11-30-2011, 08:36 AM
  #12
Green Broke
I have seen people who ride cutters back them up. Cutters pivot on the hind outside rather than the inside hind when working cattle. I knew I guy that actually took it one step further by stopping, moving the hip to the outside causing the horse to put his weight onto the outside hind to use this leg as his pivot and then turn him.

When first teaching a spin to a colt I will "back them around" (backing in a reverse arc)to teach them to move his inside rib so he can get that inside front back and out of the way to clear with outside front. If they don't get the inside front out of the way they get strung out in the spin.
But I don't use it to start the spin. I will trot small circles to get that forward momentum then let him walk down into it. And let him out BEFORE he gets hung up or loses that forward motion. This teaches them to keep that forward motion during the spin.
     
    11-30-2011, 12:54 PM
  #13
mls
Trained
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I am unsure about all this backing and don't want my horse getting backing on the brain, so advice from someone experienced in reining or cutting would be much appreciated.
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How well does your horse use it's hind quarters? Backing work is to get the horse onto the hind quarters - working off the hind quarters is necessary for the spin.

I am NOT saying that is the way to teach the spin, I am saying it is to teach the horse to know where the hind quarters are.
     
    11-30-2011, 04:02 PM
  #14
twh
Weanling
She is working off her HQs when she spins. This trainer seemed to want to back regardless of how the horse used itself. I figure she would have told me if she hadn't liked something the horse was doing.
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    11-30-2011, 05:21 PM
  #15
Started
That's one of my favorite vids for reining spins.
     
    11-30-2011, 05:22 PM
  #16
Trained
If you are looking for someone to teach you reining to compete, I'd get a new trainer. Your horse does that in the ring, because she was taught, you will be disqualified. It is always forward for a spin.
     
    11-30-2011, 11:59 PM
  #17
Green Broke
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She is working off her HQs when she spins. This trainer seemed to want to back regardless of how the horse used itself. I figure she would have told me if she hadn't liked something the horse was doing.
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If you decide to ride with her again, you might want to ask why she is asking you to back into your spins.
If you are confused about something don't be afraid to ask...that is why you are riding with a trainer in the first place right? To have guidance in training your horse. If you don't understand something ask. Some trainers are good at training horses but not explaining the process to people.
     
    12-01-2011, 10:37 AM
  #18
mls
Trained
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If you decide to ride with her again, you might want to ask why she is asking you to back into your spins.


If you don't understand something ask. Some trainers are good at training horses but not explaining the process to people.
Ha! I was going to say that!

True. When I help people, I try to relate to something they know so it's easier to understand. A good instructor should adjust teaching/training methods need to meet the needs of the student.
     
    12-01-2011, 11:37 AM
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Green Broke
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Ha! I was going to say that!

True. When I help people, I try to relate to something they know so it's easier to understand. A good instructor should adjust teaching/training methods need to meet the needs of the student.
LOL! I agree with you completely.

And finding a trainer that is a good fit for both the horse and rider is like trying to find a good hair stylist....sometimes you have to go through a few of them before you find a good one!
     
    12-01-2011, 11:48 AM
  #20
Trained
In my area in Va-hard to find a reining trainer at all! No less have a choice. I have to drive 50 miles.......one way for one. And in NY-even worse. Worth it tho.
     

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