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post #21 of 49 Old 08-17-2013, 04:14 AM
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Lol....glad to know I'm not the only one.
Stirrup length didn't bother me, I always rode with rather long leg. Cues were, if anything, more logical. Biggest issue was the balance without contact lol
My trainer is atleast four inches shorter than me, and I got on with her stirrups and felt comfortable. It was perfect. But then she leanghthened them... I really liked them shorter :) I though the cues were difficult, like in picking up the right canter lead... I was super confused lol.
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My trainer is atleast four inches shorter than me, and I got on with her stirrups and felt comfortable. It was perfect. But then she leanghthened them... I really liked them shorter :) I though the cues were difficult, like in picking up the right canter lead... I was super confused lol.
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Lol, I can imagine. I guess I lucked out with my instructor. She used to do Eventing before switching to western, so maybe her cues were a little closer to what I was used to. After all, there are no hard and fast rules as there are in English. But it still confused me.....
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post #23 of 49 Old 08-19-2013, 09:19 AM Thread Starter
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Had to put the ride off yesterday, so going after work today.. ARGH. Asked Paz to take pictures for you all ahaha!

Well, was fine till I realised his wife is coming along too.. she is really protective over ponio.. did say please don't expect too much of me. I want to learn but it a different style of riding.. said she is super sensitive in her mouth (hence the reining) due to the fact his wife can only ride with one hand.

Keep fingers crossed I don't mess it up hahahaha!
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post #24 of 49 Old 08-19-2013, 11:50 AM
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post #25 of 49 Old 08-19-2013, 12:15 PM
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I've rode western my whole life and if I ride English before riding say, a 3 year old, I feel like im reaching for my stirrups for the first little while. I could only imagine how it would feel switching if you are primarily English!!

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post #26 of 49 Old 08-19-2013, 12:30 PM
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Well, it looks like in the photo she is in a snaffle and ridden with two hands, so can't be that different from what you are used to. It's not a whole different language. Horse still goes off of rider's energy and still works from leg into hand, just maybe not so much leg and not so much hand. Hard to say, some western ridden horses aren't so light, and arent neck reining.

One thing I have noticed about many western trained hroses is that they are trained to canter from a "kiss" sound and trot from a "cluck" sound.
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^I know lots of english horses that are trained with the same verbal cues as above.
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Had to put the ride off yesterday, so going after work today.. ARGH. Asked Paz to take pictures for you all ahaha!

Well, was fine till I realised his wife is coming along too.. she is really protective over ponio.. did say please don't expect too much of me. I want to learn but it a different style of riding.. said she is super sensitive in her mouth (hence the reining) due to the fact his wife can only ride with one hand.

Keep fingers crossed I don't mess it up hahahaha!
I can't wait to see the pictures! I can't believe you found a western horse in Germany though, maybe it is regional, but when I lived there, in Nordrhein Westfalen, everybody rode English, and everyone you knew rode English, I think I only ever ran into a western saddle once, and they were riding English in it, if that makes sense.
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I think that Western riding is gaining in popularity in Germany, and there are some decent riders there now.
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Just some thoughts...
Most of us in the US that keep horses a long time--me, ~ 30 years--train our horses to ride both English and Western.
Western is a "style" identified by a heavier saddle which disperses your weight over a larger area of the horse's back, and typified by a curb bit meant to either stop the most ornary critter OR to use to halt and half halt with just your fingers. I believe that neck reining is a natural evolution of ANY type of riding where the horseman needs to use their right hand for something else, like a weapon, or a rope, and must rein only with the left. From my research it isn't exclusive to the Western United States and our colorful 19th century history, but it has become a stereotype.
The Western horse should be relaxed and the old cowboys that I had a chance to talk to many years ago assured me that a cowboy never trots his horse, just the walk to the lope and back again. They also told me that the preferred horse is on the short side so that the cowboy can easily swing aboard.
IMHO, we have had some poorly made modern Western saddles throughout my lifetime. The old "bucket" saddle had a triangular pommel below the horn, much like the McClellan saddle, and was deep from pommel to cantle. It was meant to stick you to it when you rode rough. Some modern models have been made too shallow and I have never cared for the blocky swells that we see so much today. It is also true that many of these modern saddles push you towards the cantle and can teach people an obvious chair seat. The old types encouraged you to reach down to the stirrups and in many antique photos cowboys look like they could step off their horse and onto a Dressage saddle bc their legs are long and fairly straight, lined up shoulder-hip-heel. You will also see them ride home in the stirrups.
My advice? Work this horse to be quiet and obedient and train to be a good trail horse.
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