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        12-21-2009, 10:14 AM
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    dop
    Foal
    Question Buddy sour within two weeks?

    I didn't think it was possible but am now convinced! Hi everybody-new to the forum here. My husband and I bought our 14 y.o. Daughter a three year old registered quarter horse in Oct 2009. *Kiyah* is adorable. She's solid sorrel w/ a white star marking. Great conformation (bred for cutting and reining), very pretty face, has the funniest personality...loves people, learns new things easily, but is head strong when it comes to getting what she wants. Luckily, my daughter is not the least bit intimidated by her horse and doesn't give in to her.

    We moved Kiyah recently (two weeks ago) from a stable that had little pasture and 25 horses to a new barn with 70 rolling acres (7 pastures) and only two other horses. When my daughter works with her, Kiyah has taken to acting up when not in the company of the other two horses. Actually, it isn't just Kiyah who acts up, the other mare and gelding act up, too. Lots of whinnying back & forth and bad behavior from all.. is the order of the day when my daughter separates them to groom, do groundwork, and then ride Kiyah.

    Kiyah's stall is directly across the aisle from her two herd mates. The three have a consistant daily routine where they are fed and then turned out in early a.m. Twelve hours later, they are brought in, fed and remain in their stalls till morning. For the first ten days, the horses have been kept in separate but adjacent pastures. They could touch noses, share a water trough, etc. but were separated by flexible wire fencing.

    My daughter and her trainer decided it best that the BO put Kiyah in a pasture far removed from the other two horses. First day of this was Saturday. No problems. Yesterday (Sunday - early afternoon), my daughter dealt with the whinnying, attempts at rearing, lifting of the leg like she was going to kick (but didn't-hasn't yet..) and general bad behavior from Kiyah like a pro. My daughter understands the problem. Horses get their security and comfort from each other. Kiyah hasn't been getting what she wants.

    So I get a call from the BO last evening. Question was whether my daughter had latched the gate properly in the new far removed pasture where Kiyah goes. Because at 8 p.m., Kiyah was found grazing in the pasture right next to her mates. Apparently, Kiyah had figured out a way to open the gate & lock!

    So the story goes that the BO brought the mare & gelding into the barn last evening first.. per the routine.. and left Kiyah out in her *new* pasture to be brought in second. The BO apparently only quickly pushed the gate of this new pasture shut without locking it. When he went to get Kiyah--no need..unbeknownst to him Kiyah had followed him into the barn!

    This is a very smart horse and not to be underestimated! She's developed a very quick attachment to the others. How far should my daughter go to nip this problem in the bud? Continue to pasture her away from the other two (and get a new strong lock for the gate!)? Change her stall as well so she's not facing the other two? Continue to work with her away from the others as much as possible? This barn has only these three horses for right now. It is anticipated that the total 20 stalls will fill up within the year. The BO and his wife only bought and renovated the place a while back. We are the first boarders. All comments and suggestions appreciated!

    TIA,
    Dop
         
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        12-21-2009, 11:36 AM
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    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by dop    
    How far should my daughter go to nip this problem in the bud? Continue to pasture her away from the other two (and get a new strong lock for the gate!)? Change her stall as well so she's not facing the other two? Continue to work with her away from the others as much as possible?
    Some folks like to separate them in the pasture, but I prefer to separete the 'buddy time' together and 'work' time where you work the horse away from the others. Horses love 'routine', so consistancy helps a lot.

    Do not accept bad behavior while working, but you'll need to be very patient. Start with short work sessions close to the buddies, and gradually increase the time and distance.

    By changing locations and herds, you've turned your horses world upside down, and it can take months for horse horse to really relax.
         
        12-21-2009, 11:46 AM
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    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by dop    
    ...and get a new strong lock for the gate!?...
    I forgot to add....I learned long ago that horses seem to figure out latches very quickly. Every gate at our place has a chain with a snapbolt in addition to the latch. It is more trouble to open/close, but a lot less trouble than chasing horses.
         
        12-21-2009, 12:09 PM
      #4
    dop
    Foal
    Thanks PaintHorseMares for your suggestions! Makes sense to do, "short work sessions close to the buddies, and gradually increase the time and distance." Your method is sensitive to the horse's basic security needs but accomplishes the task at hand. Gotta remind my daughter that Kiyah's transition to this new place will take lots of time....definitely patience on her part, too. No quick fixes..
         
        12-21-2009, 01:09 PM
      #5
    Weanling
    We had one that we were going to let people free lease. He got himself an our other horse we free leased run over!! They were ok, but not happy. They managed to open the latches, let everyone out, and make a break. Moral of the story, be sure to get something difficult like a bullsnap to secure the gate. :) good luck. We always work the whole staying away a little longer and going a little further, but it can be difficult. Just use as much patience as possible.
         

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