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        06-05-2009, 10:44 AM
      #11
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    ^ What I'm saying is that if she can't reach her stirrups she definitely does need to shorten them. Not to make them TOO short, just to where she can comfortably reach them. Don't know what you thought I was saying, but she needs to be able to keep her feet in her stirrups...
         
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        06-05-2009, 11:12 AM
      #12
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by mls    
    Not true at all! You need to have the stirrups adjusted correctly in the ring or on trail in any saddle! If you are sitting unbalanced and the horse spooks, you will likely be walking home. Another factor is if the rider is uncomfortable, it's not going to be pleasant for the horse either!

    I think you misread what she wrote.... Basically she's saying that yes, western riders usually ride is a longer stirrup than english, but because she is not showing she doesn't need to follow this rule and should shorten the stirrups until she's comfortable. I think a shorter stirrups vs a longer one is much less likely to cause her to be "walking home".
         
        06-06-2009, 02:16 PM
      #13
    Yearling
    Omg I have no idea wut im going to do! After I gave my horse a good workout in the western saddle and after I untacked I looked at his sweat marks...he was sweaty all over except for right behind his withers on both sides. Taking into condieration that I was using a saddle blanket (very thin from wut were used to) instead of our usual 2 inch thick pad! We can NOT of course get another saddle and they don't take returns...we r having a good friend comeout and look at the saddle just in case but do you think that if I just use the thick pad it will be ok? Please HELP!
         
        06-08-2009, 12:28 PM
      #14
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    Is it possible that the saddle is just too heavy? I have a gorgeous western show saddle that was given to me as a gift years ago before I owned my own horse that I never ride in. When I bought my first horse, a 14.1 hand MFT/Morgan Heinz 57, I bought a cordura saddle for daily use to save the leather show saddle. The saddle fit him fine, but weighs almost as much as I do. Before I would show I would ride in the heavier saddle to get him accustomed to the weight, so this wasn't a sudden changeover problem. As the summer wore on, whenever I rode in the show saddle, he carried his head higher and higher and was less and less responsive. Hard to move off, and hard to stop. I would pull the leather saddle and put the cordura back on, problems would vanish. If all you're doing is trail riding, a nylon or other synthetic will be fine. I now show English, my sis rides the saddle on her chunky QH, who is comfy as heck .

    If you can, find someone to lend you a synthetic to test ride and see how your horse reacts. If that works, eBay the leather and recoup some $'s.
         
        06-08-2009, 01:29 PM
      #15
    mls
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by WesternPleasure27    
    I think you misread what she wrote.... Basically she's saying that yes, western riders usually ride is a longer stirrup than english, but because she is not showing she doesn't need to follow this rule and should shorten the stirrups until she's comfortable. I think a shorter stirrups vs a longer one is much less likely to cause her to be "walking home".
    If the stirrups are too short - she will sit incorrectly in the saddle. It's called a chair seat and it is as dangerous. You are not correctly balanced and if the horse spins, your center of gravity will land you on your shoulder or head - on the ground.
         
        06-08-2009, 02:03 PM
      #16
    Yearling
    Well I no its not too heavy it is actually only 23 lbs, but if it was heavier I would consider it...he has been getting better at listening and I think it was just the weather, me being tense and him being excited, but if you still have more advice feel free to post thanks!
         
        06-10-2009, 12:47 AM
      #17
    Foal
    Dreamriderdc you say the problem may be lack of a thick wool saddle pad. Have you thought about investing in a SMx Air Ride™ saddle pad or something similar to go under your thin blanket. The Air Ride saddle pad relieve pressure from the most sensitive areas of a horse’s back and distribute the weight of saddle and rider evenly over the entire pad. I have not got one - yet! But i'm looking at getting one in our summer instead of using my thick wool pad. This is because I can clean and dry the thinner cloth more easier than my wool pad, and have peace of mind that I'm protecting his back.
         
        06-10-2009, 11:18 AM
      #18
    Weanling
    I still think I'd try switching out the western fenders with english leathers to see if it's just too much stuff in between you before I bought a new pad. Perfectly safe, and it works, too.
         
        06-10-2009, 01:49 PM
      #19
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    Are there a lot of saddle strings or other "danglies" on your western saddle that could be inadvertently cuing your horse to go forward or otherwise tickling or distracting him? I've ridden lesson horses that had to have saddle strings tied up to avoid upsetting them. I would definitely try swapping the fenders for English leathers and see how he reacts. Maybe he is just less comfortable not feeling your leg as clearly?
         
        06-10-2009, 02:46 PM
      #20
    Yearling
    Well guys...GREAT NEWS!!! The saddle does fit I just thought the lighter patches of fur were dry spots (pretty stupid mistake) I also checked the saddle in other places and as far as I can see it fits! :) me and my friend took our horses out to the back and my horse was MUCH better! I guess since he is just getting used to it he felt better with a buddy...he is a herd animal :) I also am starting to feel much much more stable in the saddle, so in other words I think I solved these probs.-for now! Lol! If you still have advice feel free to post it tho, and I still may look into getting that pad you just mentioned it sounds pretty good! Thanks everyone! :)
         

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