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post #11 of 19 Old 05-14-2013, 12:13 AM
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Take a deep breath, find a local trainer and take some lessons--or send your horse off for 30 days of training, or both. :) Your horse knows how intimidated you are, and he won't look at you as a leader until you can puff out your chest and tell him what to do (lovingly, of course, baha) and be the confident rider he needs. You've received some good advice here.
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post #12 of 19 Old 05-14-2013, 10:28 AM
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-Right (and only)after work, his back slightly contracts if you press a certain point on his back. Could it be the Crates barrel saddle we're using? Past owners said that was the saddle the had been using with him. Would a reining saddle be better?
Others are providing some good advice, so I will only comment on this one piece. Since the horse did well going on trail away from the barn, I am tempted to think it is not a saddle issue. Supporting that is that the previous owners used the same saddle.

Saddle fit is still something worth checking out. Also consider your saddle pad. I had a good fitting saddle with a high quality pad. The pad was thick felt with stitching up the middle. What I didn't realize at first was when I sat in the saddle, the back of the pad would push apart and the stitching would rub on the horse. A light saddle blanket under the pad fixed that. It is probably not your problem, but I point to it as an example.

Also not that a "barrel" or "reining" saddle generally refers to the style of the part _YOU_ sit on. What is more important are thing like tree style, angle of the bars, and size of the gullet... the parts that sit on your horse's back. Don't get wrapped up in "barrel" "reining" "ranch" etc. If you are concerned about saddle fit, have someone knowledgeable take a look and determine the correct size.

An analogy - if you wear a size 12 shoe, it wouldn't matter if you had a sneaker, oxford or loafer. A size 10 would be tight and a size 13 would be too big. Fit is more important than style.
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post #13 of 19 Old 05-14-2013, 10:50 AM
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I would first change his living arrangements back to paddock/ herd situation. He is probably bored silly cooped up in the stall all day, where he has time to think about things to amuse himself.
Have him ridden by the previous owners and have them tell you how to handle him.
Stopping and pawing in itself is not dangerous.....just stubborn.
Then you ride him, again, with the previous owners telling you how.
If you still have the same problems, find a good trainer and work with him. Not only the horse, you too.
And yes, check saddle fit. He might have gained or lost weight which affects how the saddle sits on his back. It could even be you sit not quite straight and put pressure on one side and not the other.....
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post #14 of 19 Old 05-16-2013, 09:27 AM Thread Starter
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thanks to everyone for giving me advice, I'll keep everything in mind!! We solved the problem! The horse is back to being super kind and willing, indoor and outdoor. Guess what? He had some kind of hate (!!) towards the "kind, lovely, creepy" man that was helping and teaching me. The trainer found that out. As soon as my horse hears his voice he gets upset. As soon ad he gets on, the horse gets mad. We later uderstood this man had some kind of second aim.. He was not helping for free. We made sure he won't show up again, and since then the horse is doing great.. Anyway, for me it's still hard to believe..
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post #15 of 19 Old 05-16-2013, 09:33 AM Thread Starter
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Plus, he did well out of the barn because the man was out of sight!
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post #16 of 19 Old 05-16-2013, 10:53 AM
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Good!
Yes, I know quite a few horses who don't like certain people. Or the typical school horse who does what he wants with a beginner, but as soon as the instructor shows up, is a really good boy. I knew a horse who would run away totally terrified, if the rider had keys jingling, but was the most dependable beginner's horse without the jingle.
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post #17 of 19 Old 05-16-2013, 02:26 PM
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Thanks to everyone for giving me advice, I'll keep everything in mind!! We solved the problem! The horse is back to being super kind and willing, indoor and outdoor. Guess what? He had some kind of hate (!!) towards the "kind, lovely, creepy" man that was helping and teaching me. The trainer found that out. As soon as my horse hears his voice he gets upset. As soon ad he gets on, the horse gets mad. We later uderstood this man had some kind of second aim.. He was not helping for free. We made sure he won't show up again, and since then the horse is doing great.. Anyway, for me it's still hard to believe..
The horse refused to work for you, because there was someone he didn't like near by? That sounds super fishy to me, especially since you said you did have a couple issues with him out by yourself.

To me, horse out by himself, no work, suddenly stuck in a stall and asked to work regularly is bound to be a little frustrated. It also sounds like you are letting him get away with a lot, and he is becoming spoiled. Regardless, if you have found a solution that works, congrats.
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post #18 of 19 Old 05-16-2013, 05:39 PM Thread Starter
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This is our first thought, cause this man scared the hell out of the horse. We got this trainer to see him. I rode him, he was fine, then this man rode him and the horse started refusing. Others rode him, perfect again. We'll se how it goes on..
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post #19 of 19 Old 07-08-2013, 09:21 PM
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Just a question, are you looking for him to walk right into the barn with you on top of him??
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