lol, I'm well aware of what western riders want--I went to college for it. I show APHA english and western.
And I didn't mean 'every horse is behind the vertical', it read, 'look at all of those horses behind the vertical!' which means it is VERY prevalent in the sport.
Look at the pictures you showed me, the second picture the horse is behind the vertical. 3rd picture, the horse is behind the vertical. It is slight, but if you're going to try to 'prove me wrong', then I suppose you shouldn't grab pictures with horses behind the vertical at all! If at all, you proved my point. These horses are backing off of the bit.
I can show you thousands of examples. Take your sig, for example. Your horse is behind the vertical.
Sure, show me more examples since you're 2-for-2 the first time around!
Bits do not 'do' anything except what the company tells you they do. If you put metal in you're mouth, it's not going to help you collect, or lift your shoulders. It might make a horse 'lighter in the bridle' because it hurts, but that's not the correct way to train a horse. If you can't do it in a snaffle then you have no business with any other bit in that horses mouth.
I love WP and I love breed HUS, but I love them for their ideals, not what the breed shows currently are showing. There needs to be a major revamp to the training of these animals.
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