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    04-06-2011, 04:35 PM
Question Getting her to run....

I recently bought a Thoro off the track to train for barrels. She is very kind and laid back not at all the typical "thoroughbred" when you think of horses off the track. She is kinda lazy actually. I have worked with her at a walk and trot getting her to move off my legs and stopping (which I know can be a problem with some). We have done a lot of ground work, flexing, circles, moving off leg, and other things that are necessary in training. I figured its about time to ask for a canter as this is one thing I haven't done with her yet. BUT, when I pushed her forward and asked for a canter all she did was go into a very fast long trot. I tried squeezing, kissing, voice command, which I taught her while lunging, and anything else I could. I even tried getting her to run next to another horse, with no luck. But boy can she move out at a trot. So, my question is, does anyone have experience with race horses and had this problem?? Is there a special cue that I'm missing here?? Any suggestions to get her to step it up a notch and canter?? The arena is very long, so I don't think its a space issue and she will canter while lunging. Any suggestions would be much appreciative. Sorry for the long story, but I wanted to get across that her training is extensive to this point and she is coming along nicely except for this small hold back. Thanks.
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    04-06-2011, 04:55 PM
If she canters on a lunge line maybe start her there with you in the saddle giving her canter cues right before someone holding the line gives her the cues she already knows.
She sounds perfect.
    04-06-2011, 05:00 PM
Ya, that was what I was thinking about trying next. I just think its funny that she is off the track and was bred to run, grand sire was Seattle Slew, but, she won't do it while I'm on her back. Just too weird. Totally not what you'd expect from a "typical" race horse. I thought I'd have hard time getting her to slow down, but like I said, she's kinda lazy. Lol She caught onto whoa right quick cause she'd rather be standing there watching everyone else work than working herself!!! Didn't have to teach this one patience!! Lol she does it freely on her own.
    04-06-2011, 05:54 PM
Racing is very purposeful on the need for speed and direction. The horse feels the purpose in it. Why don't you set up some sort of competitive "race" with another horse, with a clear start and a clear destination, and once she feels and understands you focus on the objective and to get there as fast as possible, she my pick up and go.
    04-06-2011, 08:07 PM
Lol, Ya I tried that in a long arena. I was teasing that I'm going to have to build a make shift starting gate at shows to get her to run. IDK, I've never heard of having a hard time getting a horse FROM THE TRACK to run. That's what they taught to do. That why I'm on here asking for advice. Going to try the lunging thing and see if that helps.
    04-07-2011, 02:42 AM
Take her out in the open, on a clear path with even ground and plenty of stopping room. Get up in the stirrups and cut loose.
    04-07-2011, 06:14 AM
Lets lounge you on her the next day we are both at the barn... by the way this is jackie.. lol
    04-12-2011, 02:36 PM
While many finicky people are all "Ohhhh noooo!" When I say this, you have to trust me here lol.

Teach the cue on the lunge. First things first.

Then get on her back and give the same cue. She doesn't respond, cue harder. Legs and voice first. Nudge with calves. Then kick. Then kick harder. And if she still isn't moving make her think she is chicken little, and the sky is falling down. Get a crop and get her hard on the butt. Trust me, you won't hurt her. There's probably nothing you can do to hurt that horse. Especially if you asked her softly first and she still isn't going. I've seen so many horses walk all voer their owners because they are afraid to get after them.

And also, have you checked for pain? That could be a reason. Check the pressure points and saddle fit, make sure she has her head and you're leaning forward properly. Maybe just showing the crop would make a differance.
    04-13-2011, 02:01 PM
Lol, I tried the crop on her butt, she just kicked out both back legs. Quite amusing is what my gf said. And I used my legs so much I was sore next day!! I checked her saddle and her back for soreness and pinching, but she is fine. Not out anywhere. She isn't hesitant on anything, bending, flexing, trotting, walking, or lunging. So I don't think she is in any pain. Yes, leaning froward, squeezing, kicking. Light pressure at first then firmer. She's coming along nicely and is going to be a great horse, except for THIS ONE thing! I can't believe she was taught to run and now she won't. She has a very nice headset and never has offered to be mean or rear or kick, except when I swatted her on her behind. Sorry people, but these are big animals and I in NO way abuse mine. But sometimes they need a little extra, "hey, come on now knock that s@#t off." But, ya, I tried the crop and everthing else I could think of. So IDK. Lol
    04-13-2011, 02:21 PM
Maybe she's just run sour. Do you know why she was taken off the track? This could be why lol.

I had a horse we got from the track. She was a running QH. She would run, but she was incredibly sour to it because she'd been run so much.

Maybe this is your problem?

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