I thought "peanut rollers" were a thing of the past

That is a gallop.
Back hind, back inside, outside front, inside front.

This vid explains what I mean about the outside legs hitting the ground at nearly the same time. Not like a gaited horse. I don't really know how to explain it.

Second one wasn't so bad, looked okay. But that first one was definitely peanut rolling.

Regardless, the same side pairs do not hit the ground at the same time.

A four-beating horse would just have the inside back and out side front hit at 2 different times so it would be...outside hind, inside hind, outside front, inside front or outside hind, outside front, inside hind, inside front..this combo would give the "same side hitting at almost the same time" appearance which would NOT be proper carriage.

The horse is hitting the diagonal at the same time and is therefore not four-beating.
There were "trope" moments in the second direction...I didn't watch the whole video at first, but his first direction is correct, he just needs some more push to right.

Also, WP horse are SUPPOSED to have shorter strides...a big, long strided, sweepy gait is undesirable and left for the HUS horses.
I don't think he looks lethargic at all.

That first one looked ouchy, like it had recently trimmed feet.

Must be the english rider in me, I like to see impulsion from behind, and tracking up.

Oh well.

"UPDATE!!!!!! Vic won the Novice AM. Pleasure at a QH show on July 28 08. He's still out there winning and owner says bring all offers!!!!! CHECK OUT HIS NEW VIDEO UNDER MY OTHER VIDEOS!!!UPDATE Vic is a 16H '98 bay gelding and is a proven show horse with over 140 AQHA western pleasure points. He is a multipule world show qualifier and placed 4th in the youth 15-18 pleasure at congress."

Obviously that first horse is lethargic, ouchy, and an improper mover.

Also, how would one of you like it if someone took a video off your page and posted it to be ripped apart and have bad things said???

That is one of the risks you run when you post a vid on a PUBLIC forum. :) Also, just because he is winning, doesn't make his movement in that video correct.

HEL-lo, THANK you, Smrobs, that is such a pet peeve of mine.

If you don't want people to see you, (and thereby judge you, duh) then don't be posting you stuff on the internet! I mean, what do you expect? You just basically put up a billboard (posting on youtube) with yourself on it, did you not EXPECT to be seen (and therefore, judged?)

And you are right about something else, Smrobs, just because they win in shows don't mean it is good, right, or proper riding. After all, look at the popular 'Big Lick' at the gaited shows. OT, I know, and I won't get started, but I hate seeing horses tortured for any reason, but particularly for some lame human fashion.......

In all honosty this statement is correct. We are only supposed to critique our own horses...

Big Lick WALKING HORSE shows Not all gaited breeds do that!

(sorry, back on topic now)

Peanut Rolling is phasing out, just as 80's hair is still phasing out...it will take everyone a while to catch up, but I think in general the breed is moving in the correct direction.