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    11-26-2008, 10:23 AM
  #21
Foal
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Originally Posted by BuckOff41570    
Its basically a fad that the western pleasure industry went through when the ideal pleasure horse was put to extremes. "Peanut roller" is a name given to the horses that exhibited an abnormally low head carriage(ears far below the withers) and seemed lethargic in its movements. When 4 beating,being over canted on the rail, and executing cripplingly slow gaits were considered the "ideal".
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    11-26-2008, 11:48 AM
  #22
Banned
I thought it was a thing of the past also! But I did notice two horses at the show that me and Sonny went to that looked like that...I hate the look honestly. It's not something that I'd ever want to do. A low head below the withers is one thing...but moving like it's too painful to move isn't a "classy" look to me
     
    11-26-2008, 11:57 AM
  #23
Showing
Too bad fashions aren't in the horse's best interest.
For example:
- Peanut rollers (seriously, it won't hurt your horse to move out a little.)
- Upright pasterns in halter horses (one gentleman I work with (multiple world titles) says it's rare to have a halter horse sound after 4; if he is, he wasn't that great; how pathetic is that?)
- Big Lick getting bigger and bigger every year... through inhumane devices.
- Starting show careers under saddle at 2 years old in AQHA.
- Rollkur in dressage
- Rapping in jumping
- Spiked bell boots in jumping
...and the list goes on.
     
    11-26-2008, 12:06 PM
  #24
Super Moderator
JDI...

You forgot the horse racing industry... don't they start them at like... 17 months or something insane like that?
     
    11-26-2008, 12:08 PM
  #25
Weanling
I guess what it comes down to is that you should do what you enjoy. Whether it be western pleasure, dressage, hunter/jumpers, cattle events or just trail riding. No dicipline is perfect and can't change over night. But the process and the effort to try and make it better is what matters. People will always find problems with the way a horse is trained, moving, acting, looking...whatever.

I kinda have this outlook on it...if you don't like the way it looks. Change it. The power is in the exhibitors. Change the horses in the arena and you'll change the dicipline as well as the way its percieved by the rest of the industry.
     
    11-26-2008, 12:14 PM
  #26
Weanling
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Originally Posted by farmpony84    
JDI...

You forgot the horse racing industry... don't they start them at like... 17 months or something insane like that?
Yup. Around that age. Its all in how they're started. Don't get me wrong...I personally wouldnt start em that young but I do know an owner (former Jockey) who has been breeding and racing TBs for years. She's had several and after their racing careers they went on to become riding horses. Sound,sane, and happy.
But, again, if theres going to be more money in the young horses why would someone waste their time waiting for them to come into their 4 year old year and not have the opportunity to make as much? Futurities pay out more...and people always seem more attracted to money rather than a ribbon.
     
    11-26-2008, 12:23 PM
  #27
Super Moderator
I kind of figure it's like this...

If you want to play and enjoy your horse, then who cares about proper training as long as it's safe...

If you want to show locally or backyard then... who cares about "proper" or "correct" training methods as long as it's safe...

If you want to show in upper levels then you are stuck following some of the fads and some of the more traditional training methods becuase your end result, in order to be competitive, has to match the norm... or the current fad....

The fact of the matter is... if the horse is safe... and the rider is safe... then have at it! It's all for the love of the horses anyway... right?
     
    11-26-2008, 05:26 PM
  #28
Foal
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Originally Posted by smrobs    
That is one of the risks you run when you post a vid on a PUBLIC forum. :) Also, just because he is winning, doesn't make his movement in that video correct.
Yes, when YOU post the video on the public forum and ASK for someone to critique you.
Are you the owner of this video?
Did you ask permission to post this here?
I don't think so.

Just because it's not your cup of tea doesn't mean it's wrong and the most horrible thing ever done.
I think he looks like a nice, responsive, light horse.
If you don't like it, don't ride it.
     
    11-26-2008, 11:36 PM
  #29
Weanling
Well said westernpleasure27. Those in glass houses should not throw stones. How would any of you feel if someone took a picture or a video of your horse that you love and ripped him apart?
     
    11-27-2008, 12:30 AM
  #30
Showing
Quote:
Originally Posted by WesternPleasure27    
Yes, when YOU post the video on the public forum and ASK for someone to critique you.
Are you the owner of this video?
Did you ask permission to post this here?
I don't think so.

Just because it's not your cup of tea doesn't mean it's wrong and the most horrible thing ever done.
I think he looks like a nice, responsive, light horse.
If you don't like it, don't ride it.
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Originally Posted by LauraB    
Well said westernpleasure27. Those in glass houses should not throw stones. How would any of you feel if someone took a picture or a video of your horse that you love and ripped him apart?
It's a risk you run for posting a video on the internet for all to see. If you don't want something critiqued, or if you want to make sure it will never get comments good or bad, you don't post it on the World Wide Web.

If I ever post something that's worth being ripped to shreds, then I deserve it. Have at 'er.

Just a general thought not aimed at anyone:
Unfortunately the world isn't sunshine and rainbows... I sincerely wish it was sometimes, but it's not... having a horse video critiqued is not the worst thing that could happen to a person.
     

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