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post #101 of 296 Old 04-10-2012, 05:23 PM
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"(4) The following will result in no score:

(a) infraction of any state or federal law which exists pertaining to the exhibition, care, and custody of horses within the state or country where an NRHA Reining is being held;

(b) abuse of an animal in the show arena and/or evidence that an act of abuse has occurred prior to or during the exhibition of a horse in competition;

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(e) use of tack collars, tie downs or nose bands;

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(i) disrespect or misconduct by the exhibitor.

(j) the judge(s) may excuse a horse at any time while in the arena for unsafe conditions or improper exhibition pertaining to both the horse and/or rider."

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post #102 of 296 Old 04-10-2012, 05:24 PM
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Didn't see that one! The one I saw was Clinton Anderson teaching a horse about personal space
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post #103 of 296 Old 04-10-2012, 05:27 PM
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Yeah, it's the one that caused Fugly blog some grief after she posted it. I honestly can't remember what she was trying to do, but it was confusing regardless. I can't say I'm surprised at Clinton Anderson, I've heard some things about him and other top clinicians.
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Folks-noone is perfect. Including any of us. Even the top clinicians are human, and with that comes imperfection. Watch anyone under a microscope and you will find faults. THen take only a piece of what you see so it is out of context, and post it up on the internet labeled as abuse and you will get a reaction. I am so tired of the type of people who posted this video-and I am just going by the name they have chosen.....just to get a reaction without the facts. I have had more than my fair share of this type recently with the whole "puppy mill" controversy going on here in our little town, and all the animal rights sorts around. Fed up with the lot of them. And the whole post on Youboob to ID this guy so he can be "brought to justice..." just put me over the edge. You cannot post a reply there, since the idiot who posted the video has to approve, so naturally all the posts there agree! [/URL]

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Jumanji, like I always say...take bits & pieces from everyone that work in your situation. I have yet to see a trainer, clinicians, or rider have/teach techniques that work in 100% of every situation. What may seem like abuse to some on one horse, may be considered not "strong" enough on another horse by that same person. That's why I don't follow one particular clinician over another, ppl get tunnel vision
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Frank, I'm still waiting for someone to post a 70 sec video of themselves riding, LOL. Hmmm, when the tables are turned.....
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Jumanji, like I always say...take bits & pieces from everyone that work in your situation. I have yet to see a trainer, clinicians, or rider have/teach techniques that work in 100% of every situation. What may seem like abuse to some on one horse, may be considered not "strong" enough on another horse by that same person. That's why I don't follow one particular clinician over another, ppl get tunnel vision
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I got the same advice when I was 11. Listen politely, if you don't agree then simply ignore the information they give you. Best advice I've ever gotten.
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To me, I find this scary.

What other idiots are lurking at horse shows to video a snipet of people schooling their horse to post to YouTube and label it "abuse"?

Like said before, it is not abusive, but perhaps not the best way free up shoulders, unstick the rib, and get his hindend under himself. (ahem....counter bending) But we all have to start somewhere.
If the horse was scared, eyes rolled back into his head, running backwards to evade...different story. But he wasn't.
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To me, I find this scary.

What other idiots are lurking at horse shows to video a snipet of people schooling their horse to post to YouTube and label it "abuse"?

Like said before, it is not abusive, but perhaps not the best way free up shoulders, unstick the rib, and get his hindend under himself. (ahem....counter bending) But we all have to start somewhere.
If the horse was scared, eyes rolled back into his head, running backwards to evade...different story. But he wasn't.
My thought exactly. Very scary. Anyone could take snippets from many things we do.....

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Ok let me touch on a few things here.




It is real simple The rider is not getting the responce he is looking for so he keeps correcting the horse. Again this is why I would like to see more then 70 sec. Did he start out this harsh or build to it?
Yeah franknbeans already mentioned the same, I was just misunderstanding what he was trying to go for...to my non-reiner eye it looked like he GOT the response he wanted but kept going anyway, but as you and franknbeans have pointed out, he did not get it so he was continuing to ask and escalate further. That is why I asked for clarification.

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